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I couldn’t resist this excerpt from today’s blog exchange on KSL.com

Mayor Rocky Anderson is signing his name to an advertisement supporting same-sex marriage

Same sex marriage

by Ellen G. (#44515) @ 7:49am - Tue Jul 25th, 2006

I don’t know how you can support same sex marriage Rocky. It clearly states in the bible that marriage is to be between a man and a woman. I don’t recall anywhere in the bible saying marriage can also be between a woman and a woman, or a man and a man.

If you feel that you were born with it, then maybe this is your trial in life to get over. I don’t think any of you have ever thought of that one though.

Yo Ellen

by Jim F. (#27053) @ 12:38pm - Tue Jul 25th, 2006

The Bible also states that a man who rapes a virgin should buy her from her father (Deuteronomy 22:28-29) and marry her. (And there are many other equally absurd passages as judged by today’s standards.)

Please don’t dress up your homophobia in the Bible, as you do great disservice to the Bible when you do.

WRONG

by Mike S. (#26021) @ 1:13pm - Tue Jul 25th, 2006

Dir sir, your ignorance of the Bible and the Law of Moses and its DEFINITIVE END cannot be mixed up with the irrevocable law to not practice homosexuality.

Please do not misquote the Bible.

Mike S.

by Jim F. (#27053) @ 1:27pm - Tue Jul 25th, 2006

All I did, Mike, was quote the Bible, just like Ellen. You can check the passage yourself (and you will find that my interpretation is a bit mild compared to the literal text of Deuteronomy).

What is your point (aside from labeling as ignorant one with a different viewpoint from your own)? Are you saying that only some passages from the Bible can be quoted, while others must be ignored - kinda pick and choose to suit your tase, when convenient?

Jim F

by Mike S. (#26021) @ 1:40pm - Tue Jul 25th, 2006

You deliberately misquoted a text with which you believe nothing about. If you don’t believe it, don’t use it. If you do believe it, get it right. You misquoted it and misused it.

The commandment to never practice homosexuality has never been taken from the earth. I say this as a believer.

What do you say it as? If you do not believe, than we can simply agree that our contexts will be different and then we can discuss better.

Please do not try to use the bible to disparage my beliefs when you do not even believe in it.

Mike S.

by Jim F. (#27053) @ 1:50pm - Tue Jul 25th, 2006

First, I am not disparaging your beliefs or the Bible - it is a good book, written more than one thousand years ago and translated many, many times through the ages.

Second, here is the passage for your review:

“If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, he shall pay the girl’s father fifty shekels of silver. He must marry the girl, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives.” Deuteronomy 22:28-29

So, Mike, you tell me how I misquoted the Bible.

Now, my friend

by Mike S. (#26021) @ 2:30pm - Tue Jul 25th, 2006

You have misused it. I don’t see a logical way that any correlation can be made between what the Lord said is outdated (law of moses) and what He has never changed (law against homosexual practice).

Now, try again. This time, try not to misuse the Bible.

Mike S.

by Jim F. (#27053) @ 3:37pm - Tue Jul 25th, 2006

Mike,

Maybe it will prove easier on us all if you would define what you mean by the Bible. I have always considered the Bible as consisting of the Old and New Testaments. If this is incorrect, then please advise.

Are there any other books from the “Bible” - either Old or New Testament - that I should not quote in response to cherry-picked quotes about homosexuality (or any other act you find abhorrent)?

Mike Quits; Jim Wins!!!!!!

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