Cliff LyonGeorge Bush Owes Us An Apology
Never in my life, did I imagine I would hear a president of the United States say the things he said in the Rose Garden on Friday. George Bush owes us an apology.
What follows was ripped of from here.
Our Fearless Leader,
And that Common Article III says that there will be no outrages upon human dignity. It’s very vague. What does that mean, “outrages upon human dignity”? That’s a statement that is wide open to interpretation.
once again demonstrating a dogged relentlessness in seeking an answer to the question,
Just how stupid do you think the American people are?
President Bush has been frantic in his crazed attempt to escape prosecution under the Geneva Conventions - which, by the way, are not just some obscure, frou-frou Frenchified foreign law that applies only to dowdy, monocled European field marshals. Oh, no, no, no, no, no.
Tut, tut. No, unfortunately for Messrs. Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Gonzales and various others in the chain of command of the War on Terror!®, the Geneva Conventions are The Supreme Law Of The Land. Uh, that would be this land, by the way. The U.S. of A.
Amurka.
Land of the free.
Home of the chickenhawk.
See, according to that goddamned piece of paper, the outdated document - nearly 200 years older than the antiquated FISA law - known as the U.S. Constitution,
Article VI. - Debts, Supremacy, Oaths . . . This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land
Huh. Whaddaya know. What were those crazy mofos in those wack powdered wigs thinking?
So, here we are. If Gee Dubya (and anyone else in the chain of command) is in violation of the provisions of the Geneva Conventions - which the United States ratified in 1955 - they are in violation of U.S. law.
And I will resist any bill that does not enable this program to go forward with legal clarity. . . This is an important program for the security of this country. . . If there’s not clarity, if there’s ambiguity, if there’s any doubt in our professionals’ minds that they can conduct their operations in a legal way, with support of the Congress, the program won’t go forward and the American people will be in danger.
Excuse me?
Are you threatening me?
Are you saying that you will discontinue interrogating dangerous terrorist detainees if you don’t get a law passed that allows you to torture them, even if that would mean endangering the safety of the American people?
Do you mean to tell me that your administration is so inept that - unlike administrations dating back at least through Eisenhower’s - you can’t get information out of prisoners without torturing them? And that you’ll stop interrogating them if you’re not allowed to torture them?
Wow. That’s quite a threat. I’m not quite sure what to make of that. I guess it means this:
Your concern for your legal hide (and the hides of your co-conspirators in the torture conspiracy) outweighs your concern for the safety of the American people.
Mr. President -
How dare you threaten me?
How dare you threaten the American people?
This cannot stand.
September 19th, 2006 at 7:45 pm
George Bush’s approval rating is at 47% less than two months before the election. The more Bush speaks the better his approval numbers get. Democrat’s hopes of capturing the House and Senate are slipping away rapidly. One thing I have always warned you about approval numbers is they can change on a dime. The only reason Bush’s approval ratings were so low to begin with is because of conservative and Republican discontent. When we get closer to election time you will see conservatives come together. We might be a bit angry at Bush over the immigration and spending issues but we are not about to hand the speakership over to Nancy Pelosi. The American people are not going to hand over power to the Democrats who have been hopelessly taken over by far left extremists. History is against the Democrats and there is no end in sight.
September 19th, 2006 at 8:00 pm
OBTW
President Bush owes us an apology as much as the Pope owes Muslims an apology for speaking the truth. You never need to apologize for the truth no matter how much it hurts.
September 19th, 2006 at 9:25 pm
47% Ken? Thats a much bigger number than I’ve seen. Sounds like a Drudge Report poll. Me thnks not. Help me Ken. Help me…
September 20th, 2006 at 5:40 am
Well the pope did apologize even if there’ no one there to smell it. However the pResident will never apologize and all we’ll be left with is the stink.
I say if the pResident wants to hunt down every fascist, (Islamo, corporo, or any other breed), let him. Let him move them from prison to prison around the world, without charging them, torture them to his hearts content, whatever the LAW allows or doesn’t allow. He should be able to do these things because that’ the kind of guy he is and because he squeeked thru an ‘election’ in the year 2000 5 > 4 supreme court J’s, some of whom were even appointed by his own dad. He should be able to do these things on his own and not with the coerced actions of the ‘volunteers’ who seek to protect us from threats real and imagined with thier service. He should do them with his own money and his own hands, then he should pay the penalty when his crimes are revealed, just like any other criminal. That’s the law. Fair’s fair. Ken won’t complain, it even helps him sleep better at nite.
I. however, and somewhere around 60% of the rest of the population of this nation (and practically 90% plus of the rest of the world), would just as soon he didn’t, especially on our dime and in our name. Clairify the LAW as you will, but follow THEM you must. That’s what a person sweares to do when they pronounce the Oath of Office. George is no different.
Cliff, asking for help from Ken is like asking GW to give up torture. Wouldn’t you rather beat your head against a wall?
September 20th, 2006 at 11:15 am
I think Stephen Colbert has the right idea. He invited President Bush to appear on his show on Comedy Central to describe, and perhaps even demonstrate, each “alternative interrogation technique” that, in the president’s opinion, does not represent an outrage upon human dignity.
Similarly, I would like our Utah members of Congress to publicly describe the torture methods they are supporting as our representatives. Diagrams would be helpful.
September 20th, 2006 at 3:34 pm
Geneva Convention Already Altered by SCOTUS…
The opponents of clarifying this gross vagary are claiming that any attempt to define article 3 section C is tantamount to altering the Geneva Convention itself. However the Geneva Convention has already been fundamentally altered by the United State…..
September 21st, 2006 at 10:46 am
Dictatorship is never having to say you are “sorry”.
bush is sorry just standing there.