Richard WarnickPoll: 54% Majority to Impeach Cheney
A new American Research Group poll includes the following questions:
Do you favor or oppose the US House of Representatives beginning impeachment proceedings against President George W. Bush?
All Adults
Favor 45%
Oppose 46%
Undecided 9%
Democrats (38%)
Favor 69%
Oppose 22%
Undecided 9%
Republicans (29%)
Favor 13%
Oppose 86%
Undecided 1%
Independents (33%)
Favor 50%
Oppose 30%
Undecided 20%
Do you favor or oppose the US House of Representatives beginning impeachment proceedings against Vice President Dick Cheney?
All Adults
Favor 54%
Oppose 40%
Undecided 6%
Democrats (38%)
Favor 76%
Oppose 24%
Undecided 0%
Republicans (29%)
Favor 17%
Oppose 83%
Undecided 0%
Independents (33%)
Favor 51%
Oppose 29%
Undecided 20%
(Based on 1,100 completed telephone interviews among a random sample of adults nationwide July 3-5, 2007. The theoretical margin of error is plus or minus 3 percentage points, 95% of the time. Of the total sample, 933 interviews were completed among registered voters.)
UPDATE: Does anyone remember the polls on impeachment of President Clinton? A majority never supported impeachment– the average was 26 percent. Interestingly enough, President Bush’s latest approval rating is also 26 percent.
July 6th, 2007 at 12:21 pm
How interesting. It is now clear that a majority of people who claim to be republicans, don’t know what crime is. Speaks volumes, and not good at that. If they do know what crime is, they will forgive it if they support the person. Tis no wonder we have a scenario like libby being pardoned.
If our sworn officers don’t respect the law,under Constitution, that applies to regular people,… and are untouchable, that would be the essence of dictatorship. Welcome to the end of the Republic. Started with be lincoln really, Small wonder he was murdered.
July 7th, 2007 at 12:43 am
Just the slightest bit of serious debate on the subject of impeaching both of these failures-as -human-beings would make it obvious that it must be done and the polls would explode against them, but the media and the Democratic leaders are STILL keeping quiet.
Yellow lines and dead armadillos.
July 7th, 2007 at 7:08 am
The reason is that they are bought and paid for. It has been at least 8 years since I have argued with Cliff that there is no point to political activism, as it is simply spinning wheels. For every criminal in government you remove, the cronies make an extra job, and two more appear. This kind of abuse can only be stopped by full application of existing laws, and penalties. If our officers won’t do this, the there is the General Strike. Yet in America most are comfy, own their home, and think they will live forever, and are basically gutless. The have no higher goals for society other than to see the value of their house accrue. This is clearly bi-partisan, though the dems talk a good game, who and what industry will pay for it?
Oh yeah, chinese industry, polluting, dictatorial, at 20 cents an hour, they fund our debt, in a word, scary. We are like a fattening cow. We still have horns, but that means little if you are penned up and starved to death.
The other option is on TV every day, and it isn’t happening here, but in Iraq. Over there we are the “crown” the insurgency are the Patriots, even though what they wish is not what our Patriots wished. In one way it is…to be left alone to manage their own business.
As my Dad used to say, if you are upon a people as an enemy, and your morality and motivations are clearly self serving and wrong…in time your enemy will defeat you a wet noodle.
It’s wet noodle time.
In addition, the attempt to legitimize those that break laws by entering our country illegally, and leaving those that hire them undisturbed, will lead to the destruction of wages, at all levels, as this country becomes nothing more than a place to exploit those that are powerless. Like china. The world sees this spinelessness as weakness, and it is, and indicative that Americans have no discipline over their own actions or those of their criminally motivated fellows.
If nothing is done, we are over as a Republic. It is seemingly too late, at least for the political methods of rectification. Those of you that support dem candidates are wasting your time, since we as a nation are basically bankrupt, and produce very little but mayhem, the topics being discussed by our worthless leaders, or candidates, are really nothing more than who is to be favored in getting what largess is left in this rotting carcass of a former Republic.
July 7th, 2007 at 4:25 pm
I just noticed that an appeals court said that nobody had the right to look into Bush illegal wiretapping. The problem seems to be that there is an absolute void of honorable judges. Pat Buchanan admitted the REPUBLICANS have been stacking the courts for some time now.
One of the arguments that works very well for the Republicans is throwing out the myth that the Democrats are “just as corrupt” as the Republicans…
BULL!
If the elections were not being rigged in every possible way BY THE REPUBLICANS, the Democrats wouldn’t have to play the big money election game. The people would vote for the best man rather then the Republicans telling us THEY won because (put your own reason here.)
Do people actually think Bush won because “he was the kind of guy you could sit down and have a beer with.” Were you so angry at Al Gore for sighing at the debate, or wearing earth tones, that you couldn’t vote for him? We’re also supposed to believe that ALL religious people ALWAYS vote for Bush because he loves Jesus.
BULL!
However, until we fix the voting system, I’ll never know for sure why people seem to vote the way they do and neither will you.
July 7th, 2007 at 6:37 pm
All democracy based on voting becomes corrupt, in the end, then comes dictatorship. It is rather ratchet like. As for corruption, Larry, all our politicians take PAC money, and gore is most certainly one of these. The problem with democracy is the people who chose to lead, if there is money in it, and there always is, then it attracts the worst kinds, whether they want to take money from one group of people and giver it to another, or want to never give any money, it is really just a matter of style.
Truly, if politicians were for real, we would demand their assets be frozen for the period of time they would serve in the government. That would reinforce their commitment, and bring us the kind of people who wanted to good for the public, not just for those who paid to get them elected.
July 7th, 2007 at 8:29 pm
Glenn said:
“All democracy based on voting becomes corrupt, in the end, then comes dictatorship.”
WOW!
That’s really simplistic glenn, (small g). I’m sure Al Gore makes much more money by standing for the earth then he would by standing for unrestrained consumerism.
You idiot!
July 7th, 2007 at 8:51 pm
Most things that are true are pretty simple Larry. Name a democracy that has not fallen into dictatorship?
Meaning there have been many empires where selected elements of the population have had a right to “vote” on issues. Name one that is intact. You clearly cannot call this a democracy, anymore. Besides it never was, it is a republican form of of representational democracy. True democracy would have had algore as pres, and he isn’t.
All gore makes more money than people who promote unrestrained consumerism? Don’t think so. algore is an unrestrained consumer. He has a jet plane, a 10,000 sq, ft. mansion, and uses 20 times the electricity of an average American consumer, and American consumers use more energy per capita than any other consumer on earth. 20 times that. Do you support that?
So who is an idiot?
ps: I do write my first name with a small g. Capitalization is for Al Gore.
July 7th, 2007 at 9:10 pm
Here’s one from the master of tyranny Larry.
“Those who cast the votes mean nothing, those who count the votes, mean everything”.
Joseph Stalin.
July 8th, 2007 at 12:20 am
I can’t for the life of me tell who you support, glenn?, Al Gore or George Bush. Neither? I can’t tell whether you’re a capitalist or a hippy, a fascist or a worker. What are you glenn?
Who the crap DO YOU SUPPORT!
July 8th, 2007 at 8:22 am
Don’t ask don’t tell Larry. Can’t figure it out? Guess I’m doing my job. You describe a fundamental problem with American politics, especially progressives. The absurd need to define those that do not agree, rather than reviewing content of their thoughts. So typical. Both extreme ends of the political spectrum do this. It’s laughable.
Ron Paul, republican constitutionalist representative from the 14th district of Texas is the only choice for me. He is out polling everyone on the web, yet his message is unpopular with the elite, so they do not cover him. So, vote for him anyway. Yet if gore can’t win, the whole election is already decidered. This is what I mean about dumbocracy, the people have to be smarter than Americans now are, to think that their vote has meaning. You have to MAKE your vote have meaning or it is of the same measure of jerking off into a dirty sock.
What I would say is, that all that are up for election are on the same team, and it isn’t ours (the People). Despite the popular will of the people on a host of issues, none of this is considered in most major issues facing us. In the recent immigration amnesty vote, they had to listen, or they will be gone. The People have had enough of getting screwed under the pretense of a “better life”. Still, the criminals don’t stop coming.
It isn’t democracy anymore. It is akin to what ones Mom did when you were given a choice of what vegetable to eat, in her attempt to instill a measure of independence and autonomy in her child. You get to chose, but the choice is lima beans or okra. Pretty much like what we’re going to get for president. One shitty vegetable or another.
gores efforts are to get a global tax going on carbon, is for the purposes of funding god knows what internationally. Get your head out of the sand…, china, producing crap for us, plans to build 500, 500 megawatt coal burners, in the next 5 years. What have you to say about it in Utah, where your dually 1600 megawatt burners toil out on the Swell?
I mean really, save the planet? The recent (for global warming)
concert itself created so much waste and greenhouse gas, it was ridiculous, and despite any message, you flipped the switch this morning, and here we are. gores’ nonsense is simple counterpoint to bushs’ idiocy, to purposefully divide the People, so as to further fleece them. Both are PARASITES, you need only look at HOW they live.
Back to the issues and my question, which democracies survived? (It’s cyclic Larry, kind of like the warming and cooling of the EARTH!). None do, the best that humanity can really hope for in my view, is benign enlightened dictatorship. The general public is too easily played to be trusted. Are we there yet Larry?
Parading around with a sign, isn’t like parading around with an RPG to get rid of bush policies, that really are only a continuation of our exploitationist dictum, which historians pinpoint the beginning as 1898, with the Spanish American war. I would imagine most Indians would disagree on this mark, but there we are.
July 8th, 2007 at 9:38 am
Sorry glenn, but to say that if Al Gore had, rightfully, been our president for the last 7 years, we would be in the same mess we’re in now is nonsense and you know it. Just because you try to back up your arguments with historical knowledge won’t change that fact. Thom Hartmann backs his arguments up with historical knowledge also, but would never come close to your conclusions.
Ron Paul has intrigued me for years, but I don’t know that much about him. I don’t know why he thinks the government is unable to run programs that help the people. There are a few programs that have worked just fine.
July 8th, 2007 at 10:21 am
No, we went to Iraq after 911 whole hog, there would have been no difference after 911, it was a bi-partisan whole hog fest. There has been fundamentally absolutely no difference in congress between dems and reps, apart from a few, Paul being one of them.They bought the lies, and if they were lied to as dems, it is proof of their unfitness to lead as they were either in on it, or too stupid to live.
gore presided over bombing the crap out of Serbia with clinton , and during that admin, there wasn’t a week or two that did not go by, where we did not shoot at or drop bombs on Iraq. Where were you?
What you hope to be true isn’t. The war in Iraq was promulgated by interests not approachable by the public, and in addition, most of the dual passport rats, lieberfuck among them as a dem, have been clamoring for exactly what we have been seeing the last 6 years. They thought it would be a cakewalk, but, well. I submit, that it would have been no different as we have no say. Just like we had no say in Vietnam until the boies piled so high the bi-partisan bastards couldn’t hide them.
There is no voting this kind of tyranny away. One way or another, we would have gone to Iraq no matter who was in charge, because TPTB had already decidered, and saddam knew this, and instructed his Sunni following to do exactly what the Parthians did to the Romans there(56 BC). Draw us in, make it impossible to leave, and then slowly and inexorably destroy us. Any democrat would have fallen into this trap, in fact, they all voted to DO SO! So what in the hell are you talking about?
Consider the American MO Larry as historians describe the beginning of America as an empire, 1898, Spanish American War. What happened?
The Maine blows up in Havana boat harbor. The public is incensed, we take their empire. Phillipines, etc, etc. It was an “accident”.
WW1: the spark that gets the US in the war? The sinking of the Lusitania. Never mind that the Germans took out a 2 page ad in the NY Times telling people to stay off it, as it was carrying munitions. Why do you think it sank in 15 minutes?
WW2: Pearl Harbor, I was taught at university by Mark Stoler, that FDR knew the attack was coming, yet “stood down” sop as to get the public to buy the war, and reject isolationism. That was hardly shocking for anyone that has done an in depth study of US duplicity.
Korea? Everybodies war?, under our control. The chinese saw their opportunity, and took it. Mac may have been right, nuke ‘em now he said. At least we wouldn’t be dealing with sprawlmart today.
Vietnam: Gulf of Tonkin incident…NEVER HAPPENED!
The current debacle? A suspicious destruction of the tallest building in America attributed to a man and followers that live in caves in Afghanistan, but are mostly Saudi, then somehow morphing into destroying a nation with oil, Iraq, and hanging one of our most favorite assholes. Hmm, I’m seeing a pattern here…
and it has NOTHING to do with the public, or what party is running the lie factory. Get what I mean. Stop believing in the “goodness” of dems, as most of the wars we see in this shameful legacy, were started or supported by THEM!!
This isn’t a democracy we get to participate in at any meaningful level.
July 9th, 2007 at 11:25 am
That said People, it is Paul or Kucinich, the rest are CULL, and either would be acceptable, so, let’s make one or another happen. Any election fraud in your neighborhood, knuckle up on it.
cull: dead wood, that is unsound, and actually costs money to dispose of. Whatever it costs, it’ll be a BARGAIN !
July 9th, 2007 at 9:59 pm
Kucinich is a good man. I donated $500.00 dollars to him in the stolen election of 2004. It wasn’t a waste of money even though I donated $700.00 to Howard Dean in the same election. Jim Mathesons office boy doesn’t even know who Howard Dean is or that Dick Cheney said he’s not part of the executive branch. Shameful.
July 10th, 2007 at 6:05 am
Any surprises that those that would dictate to us, would have any idea how the civics in this nation works? Mathesons’ office boy must be one of the recently educated young Americans that have never heard of civics, and who know what else he may not know, as he was transformed and honed intellectually, to the pinnacle of 3oth place by our sleek and efficient education system.
September 28th, 2007 at 12:49 pm
[...] Last April, Rep. Kucinich introduced House Resolution 333, Articles of Impeachment Relating to Vice President Richard B. Cheney. In July, a poll by the American Research Group found that Americans backed a Cheney impeachment by a 54 percent majority. [...]