I saw this video yesterday and can’t stop thinking about it because reflects perfectly the masterful deviance of Karl Rove.
Reagan started it, and Rove perfected it.
How do you mobilize the average Christian “bubba” into a warrior in the fight to destroy the very fabric of the great American principles of liberty, compassion, and tolerance? How do you empower white, uneducated, emasculated men to turn on one another while celebrating the dismantling of our constitutional liberties.
How do you translate Mein Kampf into effective 21st century facism? I must admit, I haven’t put a lot of thought into it but “rugged individualism” seems the perfect brand.
Meet Chad Nesbitt and his brand spanking new website called Carolina Stompers.
In this video, you will see a self-proclaimed vigilante against illegal drugs (and democrats, liberals, RINO, et. al.) misrepresent a homeless man (who might just as well be a close relative of Chad, if not Chad himself someday) as a drug addict. You will see a classic white, emasculated, southern, redneck desperate to exercise some power, any power he can, over a harmless, innocent, fellow American in the name of Christianity. (see if you can spot the Christian values)
Chad Nesbitt is the manifestation of what Karl Rove has beset upon this nation. Chad Nesbitt is our national shame. Chad Nesbitt is an embarrassment to America. And saddest of all, Chad Nesbitt is a victim of the very people he supports.
#1 by Frank Staheli on August 14, 2007 - 3:12 pm
Chad Nesbitt and Carolina Stompers are filthy vermin–the republican equivalent of Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton.
Would you please elaborate on what you mean by “Reagan started it…”?
#2 by Larry Bergan on August 14, 2007 - 6:30 pm
Chad Nesbitt offers help to this poor guy and he was smart to reject it. He will always have more dignity then Chad.
This guy probably got let out of jail for a non-violent offense and was given five bucks to start a new life.
But, of course, I have no idea. I wish somebody would make a blockbuster movie along those lines though. There must be a million stories that would make a powerful statement and embarrass the “get tough on crime” crowd in congress. That would, of course be the crimes of the poor, not their own. Rush ‘hillbilly heroin” Limbaugh would be living that way without all his money and compromised judges.
#3 by Thunder Pig on August 15, 2007 - 7:13 am
Chad is actually a decent fellow who is involved in finding solutions to the problems of the local community.
Chad talks like I talk, and intolerant folks like you don’t have the first clue about charity. Real, personal charity where one goes out and helps people, not the “armed robbery” that is government or non-profit charity.
Someone like you would rather let people destroy themselves than attempt to help them.
#4 by Cliff Lyon on August 15, 2007 - 8:01 am
Thunder Pig,
Thank you for the feedback, though I must take exception to your assumption, “intolerant folks like you don’t have the first clue about charity.”
This statement is very much in line with the generally aggressive and militant posture of his website…”Stomp”?
“We research our enemies and expose Democrat corruption”.
I don’t suppose you are aware that by any measure, Republicans seem to have a the corner on corruption these days.
Does THAT concern you?
How are you helping minorities?
May I assume the homeless man is living in Chad’s house? How did Chad help this man? What evidence does Chad have that this man is a drug addict?
Is Chad aware that it was Reagan who terminated federal funding for the mentally ill and thousand were kicked out into the street?
Listen up Thunder Pig, you can’t have it both ways. You can’t be unabashedly partisan and at the same time claim to be concerned with those less fortunate than you.
Show me some empathy for the down trodden. Show me a Christian act. All I see is words.
I assume you agree that government needs to pay for our public roads. Is there anything else you think the government should be responsible for providing to the public?
#5 by Cliff Lyon on August 15, 2007 - 8:38 am
Frank,
Thanks for asking. I think it is terrible important for people to understand the truth about Reagan. So many millions have been invested in the propaganda campaign to glorify Reagan.
When I say “Reagan started it”, I’m talking about this concept of “rugged individualism” and “individual responsibility.”
On its face, it sounds great, but as a the driving premise for policy, it subordinates the higher values of communitarianism, social equality, empathy, and the highest of all Christian values, “do unto others.”
This is a very simple concept. Our personal behavior and public policy is driven first by “do unto others” or self and family.
Lets assume family is your highest priority. Ask yourself, is my family better served by putting them above community, or is my family best served by putting community above family?
Taken to the extreme, is your family better served by by great family wealth, or great community wealth? Are your kids better served by being well-educated in an uneducated community, or under educated in a well-educated community.?
Here is a good primer of Reagan Populism.
Here are a few fairly indisputable facts of the Reagan legacy.
1. Ronald Reagan had little or no effect in defeating communism in the Soviet Union. Communism officially collapsed long after Reagan left office and for reasons (internal, Eastern Europe bloc, technology, etc…) unrelated to the Gipper.
2. Ronald Reagan signed the largest middle class tax increases in world history.
3. Reagan accumulated more debt against our treasury in 8 years than all previous presidents combined had done in 192 years.
4. More banks closed during 8 years of Reagan than they had in the previous 192 years combined.
5. Ronald Reagan provided the training and weapons to Osama Bin Laden which formed the base for Al Qaeda.
6. Ronald Reagan gaves arms to Hezbollah.
7. More members of Ronald Reagan’s administration were indicted or jailed (139) than any other previous administration in American history.
8. 91% of Americans saw their standard of living decline during the 1980s.
9. Reagan actively supported the apartheid government of South Africa.
10. The poverty rate rose by 6 million people in America from 1980 to 1988.
11. America ranked 1st worldwide in manufacturing in 1980. When Reagan left office, America was ranked 13th.
12. Under Reagan, America went from the largest creditor nation in the world to the largest debtor nation.
13. Bitburg, Germany. Reagan called Nazi soldiers “innocent victims.”
14. Reagan opposed the Equal Rights Amendment for women.
15. Reagan ignored the murders of 241 dead marines in Beirut. Instead of pursuing the murderers, Reagan invaded a classroom in Grenada the following day.
16. Nuclear weapons proliferated throughout the 1980s. Many of these loose nukes are still out there.
17. College tuition costs rose dramatically during Reagan’s presidency.
18. Reagan cut student loans.
19. Reagan overruled the NASA scientists engineers who warned of potential problems and decided to send the Challenger up into space anyway (because he wanted the photo-op) prior to correcting the problems.
20. Reagan proposed making ketchup a vegetable for school lunches.
21. Reagan engaged in union busting activities that hurt labor and workers.
22. James Watt was Reagan’s secretary of the interior. Watt once said, “We don’t have to protect the environment, the 2nd coming of Christ is at hand.”
23. Reagan ignored the growing AIDS crisis out of pure bigotry and hatred during the first few years of his presidency.
24. Ollie North and Iran Contra.
25. Reagan appointed Antonin Scalia to the United States Supreme Court.
26. Reagan promoted William Rehnquist to chief justice of the US Supreme Court.
27. Reagan supported the Taliban in Afghanistan.
28. Since the Great Depression, Reagan presided over the biggest 1 day losses in the stock market in American history.
29. The federal share of education spending dropped by 50% during the 1980s as a percent of the total share. (12% to 6%)
30. Reagan cut Medicare.
31. Reagan raised social security taxes.
32. Ronald Reagan dramatically increased the amount of spending by the federal government, mostly on waste.
33. Reagan was a disciple of Joe McCarthy who engaged in witchhunts against so called communists in Hollywood during the 1950s.
34. Ronald Reagan opposed the 1964 Civil Rights Act.
35. America’s national debt more than tripled under Ronald Reagan.
36. The Savings and Loans scandals and disaster.
37. Reagan cut school lunch programs.
38. Star Wars. As Mitterand once said, “What planet is he living on?”
39. Reagan deregulated the media industry leading to the monopolies we have today.
40. The arms for hostages deal with Iran.
41. Reagan the horrible father once publicly said that his son should undergo a psychiatric evaluation.
42. The multiple Reagan recessions.
43. His treatment of Jane Wyman.
44. Ronald Reagan supported Bob Jones University, including its sexist, racist, and miscegeny policies.
45. Ronald Reagan tried to abolish the US Dept. of Education.
46. Reagan sought to abolish Social Security, said in 1975 that he wanted to make it voluntary.
47. Ronald Reagan cut back on job training programs.
48. Reagan cut back on Veterans benefits.
49. Economically speaking, the 1980s saw slower growth than any previous decade since WWII.
50. Poverty rates increased by over one-third during Reagan’s presidency.
51. The Michael Deaver Scandals.
52. A presidency on 2 by 4 index cards.
53. His claims about not remembering on Iran Contra made Reagan, in the words of Barry Goldwater, either incompetent or a liar.
54. Bribes, kickbacks, and pay for play were the norm of this corrupt administration.
55. Federal spending of national income was higher in 1988 than it ever was under Jimmy Carter.
56. Ronald Reagan’s tax bill of 1986 raised taxes on small businesses.
57. Reagan tried to abolish the Dept. of Energy.
58. Reagan the racist once said that Africans eat each other.
59. Reagan cut education scholarships.
60. Reagan fired all the air traffic comptrollers thus weakening air safety.
61. Reagan’s tax policies led to higher local income and property taxes.
62. Payroll taxes increased under Ronald Reagan.
63. Excise taxes increased under Roanld Reagan.
64. Reagan allowed big business to rape American’s national parks by giving them tax free leases to drill on public lands.
65. The Laffer Curve and napkin economics.
66. Median wages in real dollars fell during the 1980s.
67. Unemployment hit double digits under Ronald Reagan.
68. Reagan weakened anti trust laws.
69. Reagan was the spokesman of General Electric during the heyday of their electric price fixing scandals.
70. More servicemen died during “peacetime” during Reagan’s presidency than any other presidency prior to his.
71. Reagan increased gas taxes, then called it a user fee.
72. Reagan’s policies put small farmers out of work, allowing agri-business conglomerates to monopolize the industry.
73. Despite rarely praying himself, Ronald Reagan wanted to impose government prayer on American citizens.
74. Reagan supported NAFTA.
75. Ronald Reagan undermined the right of collective bargaining for workers.
76. Ronald Reagan tried to undo child labor law protections.
77. Ronald Reagan tried to undo laws outlawing sweatshops.
78. Ronald Reagan cut back on housing assistance for the elderly by almost 50%.
79. The number of fines and penalties against employers who engaged in wrongful activity was reduced by over 70% during Reagan’s presidency.
80. The GDP plunged during Reagan’s presidency.
81. Reagan increased federal government spending by over 80% during his 8 years in the White House.
82. Reagan began his campaign for presidency in Philadelphia, Mississippi, preaching the same rhetoric as the murderers who killed 3 civil right workers (Schwerned, Goodman, Cheney) in 1963.
83. Home foreclosures rose dramatically during the 1980s.
84. Abortion rates went up during the 1980s.
85. Teenage pregnancy rates went up during the 1980s.
86. Reagan singlehandedly turned California’s education system from the best in America to one of the worst in America in just two terms as governor.
87. Reagan once said that trees were the single biggest cause of pollution.
88. Reagan supported Jonas Savimbe, the brutal dictator and mass murderer of Angolans.
89. Reagan supported the brutal AFrican dictator Mobitu who murdered millions of innocent people.
90. Reagan supported Pinochet, the murderous dictator of Chile.
91. Reagan supported Fernando Marcos, the murderous dictator of the Phillipines.
92. Reagan supported Indonesian’s murderous dictator Suharto.
93. Reagan gave chemical weapons to Saddam Hussein, the murderous dictator of Iraq.
94. Reagan supported the ayatollahs of Iran.
95. Reagan, through the IMF, changed policies which led to poorer nations being unable to get out of debt.
96. Ronald Reagan doled out more corporate welfare than any previous President in American history.
97. Reagan gutted the clean air act.
98. Reagan gutted the clean water act.
99. Reagan opposed cleaning up toxic waste sites.
100. REagan cut funding for Legal Aid.
101. Reagan supported the murderous regime in Nicaragua which took office by a coup after democratic elections to the contrary.
102. Reagan supported a murderous dictator in Panama.
103. Reagan supported the murderous dictatorship regime of Argentina in the 1980s which would kidnap over 1 million children at gunpoint because their parents were considered “leftists.”
104. Reagan supported the brutal, murderous government of Singapore.
105. Reagan supported the murderous dicatorship in El Salvador.
106. Reagan supported the murderous dictatorship in Haiti.
107. Margaret Thatcher, destroyer of Great Britain, and the worst prime minister in England’s history, adored him.
108. Even Richard Nixon once described Ronald Reagan as a very weird guy.
109. Ronald Reagan signed the largest tax increase in California’s history.
110. Reagan supported the brutal murderous regime of the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia.
111. Reagan supported the murderous regime of Efrain Rios Montt in Guatemala that murdered over 100,000 people. Reagan claimed Montt was getting a “bum rap.”
112. Reagan cut funding for birth control.
113. Reagan was the only president where debt exceeded gross national product.
114. Reagan cut funding for Head Start.
115. Ronald Reagan opposed a woman’s right to choose.
116. Reagan gave away over a billion tons of government coal in Wyoming to Big Business.
117. Reagan equated the Mujahadeen and Osama Bin Laden to America’s founding fathers.
118. Reagan tried to abolish affirmative action programs.
119. Reagan supported the murderous regime of Manuel Noriega.
120. Reagan supported Botha’s policies of murder in South Africa.
121. Reagan’s embrace of Barry Goldwater’s extremist platform in 1964.
122. The Housing market bust of the late 1980s.
123. Voodoo economics as a whole.
128. If you add up all the murderous regimes Reagan supported and tabulated the death tolls, Reagan would rank as one of the world’s five biggest murders, slightly behind Hitler and Stalin.
129. Ronald Reagan opposed proposals to reduce the harms of acid rain on the environment.
130. 600 dollar toilet seats.
131. Farm foreclosures reached record highs during the 1980s.
132. Unemployment claims increased during the 1980s.
133. The number of bankruptcy claims filed increased during the 1980s.
134. Malnutrition rates increased during the 1980s.
135. REagan cut low income housing funds by over 80% during the first two years of his presidency.
136. Reagan the ra once described black women as “welfare queens.”
137. Ronald Reagan tried to lower the minimum wage for younger workers.
138. Reagan cut OSHA (Occupational Safety + Health Administration) staffing and enforcement by over one-third.
139. Reagan tried to undo Title Nine and equal education laws.
140. Reagan cut back on EEOC enforcement of gender discrimination by 50% despite a 25% increase in claims during his presidency.
141. As Governor, after migrant workers protested the inhumane conditions at the vineyards, Reagan went on TV and started eating grapes.
142. Health care costs skyrocketed because of Reagan’s deregulation policies.
143. Bedtime for Bonzo.
144. Reagan exempted the sugar cane industry from the fair labor standards act.
145. Reagan signed an executive order instituting the infamous gag rule regarding abortion.
146. Reagan sought to ban forms of contraception.
147. Murder rates increased during the 1980s.
148. Drug use increased during the 1980s.
149. Teen smoking rates increased during the 1980s.
150. Interest rates reached 20% at one point during Reagan’s presidency.
151. Reagan taxed people’s savings from their bank accounts, which had previously been tax free.
152. EPA enforcement rates declined 79% during Reagan’s presidency.
153. Reagan favored school vouchers which would severely undermine the quality of education in America.
154. Reagan cut school construction funding as governor of California.
155. As governor, Ronald Reagan increased the sales tax.
156. As governor, Ronald Reagan’s first budget increased spending by 23% even though Reagan campaigned on “less spending.”
157. Reagan once claimed that Vietnam Vets were not entitled to the GI Bill of Rights because Vietnam was not a declared war.
158. Caspar the criminal Weinberger.
159. Reagan tried to dramatically cut the Superfunds for environmental cleanup.
160. Reagan thought that working 20 hours a week was hard work.
161. Callous Reagan’s response to people being hungry. “They’re dieting.”
162. The number of business failures in Reagan’s first term tripled the number of business failures during Carter’s presidency.
163. The Ed Meese scandals at the Dept. of Justice.
164. As President of the Screen Actors Guild, Reagan helped blacklist many people from work as alleged communists. But when Nancy Davis came to him and said she was on the list by mistake, Reagan had her name removed from that list and later married her.
165. The events surrounding Pan Am flight 103.
166. Against the advice of the military, Reagan housed the marines in
Lebanon on land instead of at sea.
167. Only 1 member of Reagan’s cabinet remained for the entire 8 years.
168. Alexander Haig was his first Secretary of State.
169. As Governor, Reagan ordered California state patrol onto a campus where a 25 year old man from San Jose was murdered by an overzealous officer.
170. Reagan often referred to his wife Nancy as “Mommie.” (In all fairness this may be one of the most honest momemts in Reagan’s life.)
171. Reagan claimed he fought in WWII. He was in a movie.
172. AIDSgate.
173. Ironically enough, the most expensive building in Washington to construct is named after Ronald Reagan.
174. Reagan was not an optimist. He truly hated large numbers of people and his policies reflected this pessimism.
175. Reagan admits that he never saw grades above Cs.
176. Despite trying to shove religion down everyone’s throat, Reagan rarely went to church and rarely practiced what he preached.
177. Reagan couldn’t even recognize his own son at his high school graduation.
178. Reagan was a distant and abusive father who ignored his own kids.
179. Reagan was the first divorced president in American history.
180. Reagan’s 2nd wife Nancy Davis hired an astrologist to plan some of Reagan’s days as President.
181. Reagan once said, “All the waste in a year from a nuclear power plant can be stored under a desk.”
182. Reagan once said, “A tree is a tree. How many more do you need to look at?”
183. Reagan once said, “facts are stupid things.”
184. Reagan once said, “I am not worried about the deficit. It is big enough to take care of itself.”
185. Reagan admitted to falling asleep during Cabinet meetings.
186. Reagan once said, “It’s true hard work never killed anybody but I figure, why take the chance?”
187. Reagan once said, “My fellow Americans, I am pleased to announce that I have just signed legislation which outlaws Russia forever. Bombing begins in five minutes.”
188. REagan once said, “trees cause more pollution than automobiles.”
189. Reagan once said, “the state should not subsidize intellectual curiosity.”
190. Reagan once said of people whom he considered hippies and free speech advocates on college campuses that they “should be taken by the scruff of the neck and thrown off campus — permanently.”
191. Reagan once said about protestors on college campuses, “If it takes a bloodbath, let’s get it over with.”
192. Reagan once said, “It’s silly talking about how many years we will have to spend in the jungles of Vietnam when we could pave the whole country and put parking stripes on it and still be home for Christmas.”
193. Reagan once said, “Unemployment insurance is a pre-paid vacation for freeloaders.”
194. Reagan once said, “Growing and decaying vegetation in the land are responsible for 93% of the oxides of nitrogen.”
195. Reagan once called Medicaid recipients, “a faceless mass waiting for handouts.”
196. Reagan the homophobe once called homosexuality “a tragic illness.”
197. Reagan once said, “Jefferson Davis is a hero of mine.”
198. Reagan once said, “Fascism was really the basis for the New Deal.”
199. Reagan’s Interior Secretary James Watt once said to describe a panel he appointed, “A black, a woman, two Jews, and a cripple.”
#6 by Larry Bergan on August 15, 2007 - 3:19 pm
Way to kill a sacred cow Cliff!
Thunder Pig:
People don’t want charity, they want to make a livable wage and have health care that doesn’t send their families down the drain. What would you do with someone like the poor guy in this video? Put him in a big warehouse full of people and give him soup. That’s not charity, it’s humiliation. This guy had enough dignity to reject that road and you guys go out and harass him. Shame on you!
This is a country that cares about the dignity of it’s citizens and will soon take it back from pigs like yourself. Love it or leave it.!
#7 by Frank Staheli on August 15, 2007 - 7:25 pm
Cliff,
Despite its huge popularity, Daily Kos does very little to add to the intellectual debate in this country. About 188 of the 199 items on its list are tripe (some of his sayings were jokes, man, and quite funny to non-angry people). And most of the other 11 are not true (where are the references, by the way?).
Stop being so angry about a great president. I’m sure you can find something good that he did.
#8 by Chad Nesbitt on August 15, 2007 - 9:09 pm
It’s amazing to watch these uppity, Harvard class, liberals twist and spin a “don’t use drugs videoâ€
and link it to Karl Rove. Bloger Cliff Lyon is the typical progressive that cares nothing about getting people off the streets or American values. He is mad because there is another conservative website that is beating and telling the truth about the democrats.
Websites like carolinastompers.com are devastating to the liberal agenda.
At the end of the video I ask “Do you need some help?â€
This man had been living in his own filth for months behind a local shopping center.
I did everything but kidnap this man to get him to go to a homeless shelter.
But ooooh no, he wouldn’t go. We cleaned up the mess and the man moved on.
I later found out he had been approaching women in the parking lot as they walk from their car to the store playing with his genitals.
I doubt Cliff Lyon would clean up filth like in the video. He might break a nail.
Lyon’s places me in great company being beside Karl Rove and Ronald Regan. I would much rather be there than compared to Howard Dean, John Edwards, Hillary Clinton, or North Carolina‘s very own Speaker Jim Black.
There’s a saying we have in the South –
“Mess with us, then you mess with the whole damn trailer park!â€
Same goes for –
“Mess with the security of our nation and American values,
then you mess with the whole damn Republican Party!â€
Chad Nesbitt
#9 by Larry Bergan on August 15, 2007 - 10:06 pm
Republican party 2007 and American values? Really now!
My country right NOT wrong. Love it or leave it Chad! And take the whole “damn”, (your words), Rethuglican party with you!
#10 by Larry Bergan on August 15, 2007 - 10:18 pm
This is amazing!
The Bush corporate barnacles dismantle the constitution and all Chad Nesbitt wants to do is go after people who can barley lift their head to say bug off.
What a hero.
#11 by Frank Staheli on August 16, 2007 - 7:42 am
Chad,
I ain’t no dadgum liberal, and I still despise the filth that you are throwing all over the place. Please don’t try to associate yourself with Ronald Reagan, because that would be a travesty.
I disagree with Cliff on a regular basis, but at least he can hold an intelligent conversation. When you alter your tactics, including your filthy website, let me know.
Don’t try to class me in your “whole da[ng] Republican Party”. You’re what’s wrong with it.
#12 by Jerry Ledford on August 16, 2007 - 8:37 am
I have never met Chad, but I have heard him on the radio and seen him on television.
My wife and I left the Democrat party and became a Republican because of Chad. He speaks “plainly”.
It sounds like some of you have more of a problem with the South than you do Mr. Nesbitt.
#13 by glenn on August 16, 2007 - 9:20 am
C’mon, our national shame is that there is a middle aged man living in the weeds in an apparent hopeless condition alone, Chas is just the reactive element. Do not divert attention from what is the true situation, that America has these conditions in all too many places.
He plans to move the man on, clean up his hovel, and perhaps the man can move onto to a social services plan. That isn’t what Chas is about, he’s the cleaner upper. Big deal. No more than the police are compelled to do. I don’t see any Christian proselytizing, just Chas warning the high gravity homeless man that his hovel is being rendered on Monday. There are no social services coming to get him, progressive or otherwise it would seem.
As for Reagan, just dems did nothing to stop him either, though they weren’t the majority then, and less balmeworthy…so I am still stunned and amazed that the current dem majority has not even tried to stop bush. Most of what Reagan pushed is elite agenda, followed by some clinton, for flair, as it is he that was pres when nafta was passed, and the decline of America began in earnest through outsourcing under his presidency.
Neither party is worth a stained mattress in the back of the supermarket.
#14 by glenn on August 16, 2007 - 9:31 am
It would be good to note that in criticizing Reagan you fall to the similarity of attacking the weak, as being responsible for conditions…we must after all accept the fact that Reagan was senile, a lot sooner in his presidency than people imagined, so most of what passed under his pen, may well not have been anything he really knew about.
After being shot, Reagan deteriorated quickly, and then it was Nancy and aides (CIA daddy bush?) that ran the country. Did anyone know that the hinckly and bush families are well known to each other?
Fun before bedtime reading. http://www.nathanielblumberg.com/neil.htm
#15 by Cliff Lyon on August 16, 2007 - 9:36 pm
Hey Jerry,
How did you know my gandfather was a Harvard man. But I don’t imagine you guessed that my grandfather (Clifford Durr) was also a hard core southerner.
See truth is, Chad, when you mess with Chad you mess with half the trailer park. The other half are embarrassed by you as is most of the republican party.
Thanks for trying to help the homeless man. Did you ever confirm his problem was drugs? My guess is he is mentally ill and should be in one of those special hospitals that Reagan closed down.
#16 by Cliff Lyon on August 16, 2007 - 9:42 pm
Hey Chad,
Just out of curiousity, what exactly are your credentials as a politico? What is your training in public policy and politics?
Have you read the constitution? How about the Federalists Papers? How old were you when you first registered to vote (better tell the truth, because I will look it up)?
#17 by Thunder Pig on August 17, 2007 - 7:08 am
Cliff Lyon: (sorry for the delay…been busy)
Charity is person to person…not government to person. My contributions are mostly unheralded, known only to me, the afflicted, and God. I can only point to one example I photoblogged. I was a volunteer firefighter, first responder, and emt for a number of years. I served as Training Officer and Rescue Captain, Secretary of the Board for the Fire Dept, and as Secretary of the county fireman’s association.
My current acts of charity involve helping illegal aliens learn english using the Declaration of Arms, Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, and the Federalist Papers. I am working on including “the Conservative Mind” by Russell Kirk, and “God and Man at Yale” by WFB, Jr.
Boy, you really hate Reagan, huh? All that hate’s gonna burn you up.
Larry Bergman:
I would help the man out by getting him a meal, a shower, some clothes…find out his mediacl history (for possible transport to a mediacl facility), and see if I could persuade him to ride with me to one of the many homeless shelters in Asheville.
glenn:
For the US Senate to get anything accomplished their must be a 60 vote voting bloc on any given issue, and 67 to overturn a veto. The US House is a little easier to pass things through when you’re in charge, but there is that 2/3 majority thing to keep transient fads from being passed into hasty law. Bush 43 has been in that situation more or less since day one.
Cliff:
The mental health system in NC was closed down by Gov. Mike Easley, a Democrat.
I have actually teamed up with progressive bloggers on this issue, and lobbied my elected officials, and encouraged others to do the same.
Forgive me for linking to some of my sites…I felt it was necessary to offer citation.
In closing: Isn’t it odd that an evil conservative was the one who offered to help the guy while the progressives were sipping expensive coffees on the sidewalks? They also cry out when attempts are made to stop illegal drug trafficking as well.
So who is helping, and who is harming?
If we all took action ourselves instead of waiting for the government to do something, this would be a much better world.
Find an area that appeals to you based on your gifts and abilities…then roll up your sleeves and get to work.
Peace Out!
#18 by Cliff Lyon on August 17, 2007 - 8:37 am
Hi Thunder Pig,
Thank you for your public and volunteer service. I need not rise to your challenge about who is more charitable but if you google me, you will get an small idea of where I fall in that realm.
The issue of whether charity should be government vs private and voluntary has been thoroughly debated historically. And we have discovered from experience, that when charity or public assistance is left to the people or even the states alone, it doesn’t quite cut it. It isn’t doled out very equitably, predictably, or even sufficiently.
But more importantly, is the question of dignity. Who for example suffers when a father or mother of five children is too proud to ask for help?
Think about it.
As for Gov. Mike Easley’s decision regarding mental health, I think you need to look a bit deeper and consider the surrounding issues. If a mental health hospital were getting 75% of its budget from federal funds, and that got cut off, would you, COULD you, make up the difference with State funds?
btw: I never used the word “hate” with reference to Reagan. You right-wingers just love to throw that word around (rather liberally). Perhaps YOu should ask yourself, why that word is so prevalent in right-wing speech. I don’t hear it being used by the left nearly as much frankly.
#19 by Larry Bergan on August 17, 2007 - 9:50 am
Thunder Pig:
Wouldn’t it be better to help people avoid being afflicted in the first place by making sure Republicans don’t steal any more elections. The Diebold voting machine corporation just changed their name to distance themselves from the Diebold corporation at large.
Voting machines have only been a part of that theft though, and that’s why Karl Rove stepped down. A great journalists named Greg Palast has about 500 of those E-mails Rove says were lost and they prove he was involved in rigging our elections through something called “voter caging.” He was actually preventing American soldiers in Iraq from voting.
You won’t see that story from all those “support the troops” celebrities on your website.
You like to be around people stripped of their dignity by the right wing crazies and your website features a cartoon elephant that looks like a mafia bully.
The “conservative” mind indeed!
#20 by Asheville Scoop on March 5, 2008 - 8:48 pm
Mr Nesbit is under investigation for illegal activity…..
Read all about it!
#21 by Bitter EX democrackkk on March 8, 2008 - 9:43 am
I guess you mean Martin Nesbitt, Democrackkk-Buncombe, who’s being investigated for conflicts of interest with Blue Cross/BS of NC, the state run and CORRUPTED health insurance company here. Martin is a nasty democrackkk good ole boy who hangs out with folks like Larry Leake, WNC’s MOST CORRUPT democrackkk, and others…Im telling you folks, in NC, democrackkks have RUINED our once great state by horrible proportions! STRIVE to be SMARTER than a democrackkk!