I’ll Take Option C Please

Two connected posts - first Street Prophets We’re All Dhimmis Now which links to Glen Greenwald’s The Islamist’s Are Coming:

Every now and then, it is worth noting that substantial portions of the right-wing political movement in the United States — the Pajamas Media/right-wing-blogosphere/Fox News/Michelle Malkin/Rush-Limbaugh-listener strain — actually believe that Islamists are going to take over the U.S. and impose sharia law on all of us. And then we will have to be Muslims and “our women” will be forced into burkas and there will be no more music or gay bars or churches or blogs. This is an actual fear that they have — not a theoretical fear but one that is pressing, urgent, at the forefront of their worldview.

And their key political beliefs — from Iraq to Iran to executive power and surveillance theories at home — are animated by the belief that all of this is going to happen. . . .

One way to look at the threat posed by Islamic radicalism (let us call it Option A) is to see it as the Epic War of Civilizations, the Existential Threat to Everything, the Gravest and Scariest Danger Ever Faced which is going to take over the U.S. and force us all to bow to Islam.

Another way to look at it (let us call this Option B) is to dismiss it entirely, to believe there is nothing wrong with Islamic radicalism, to think it should just be completely ignored because it poses no dangers of any kind.

There are, however, other options besides A and B. Therefore, to reject Option A is not to embrace Option B. 

I think this comes back to the idea of being overwhelmed by modernity which, it seems to me, is as much about acknowledging a multiplicity of persepctives, ideas and options as it is about any advances in technology.  The tendency to see the world in Manichean terms, as a dualistic battle between good and evil - which is a hallmark of religious fundamentalism no matter its stripe - is also a way of managing complexity.

Pastor Dan at Street Prophets writes “The religious corollary to these secular fears is a contempt for tolerance. Some conservative Christians really believe that they are locked in an existential cultural conflict with “the East”. For them, pluralism is tantamount to surrender

 There’s a straight-line relationship between fear of a Muslim invasion and a fear and disdain for pluralism. This is an essentially rigid worldview, in which any sort of change or deviation from the master plan ensures disaster. Tolerance undermines Christianity and allows its greatest enemy (Islam) to become implanted within America’s Christian society, spelling its destruction.

Reading through conservative articles and op-ed pieces, it is difficult to miss the paranoia about Islam, the either/or attitude toward Islam - we destroy them or they destroy us.  Notice that coexistence is absent from this construct. 

Which is where the other options come in.  The other options, for instance, are often articulated by folks like Bill Scher:

Barack Obama’s recent foreign policy address was a move in the right direction. As recommended here, Obama challenged the main false premise of conservatism:

The President would have us believe that every bomb in Baghdad is part of al Qaeda’s war against us, not an Iraqi civil war. He elevates al Qaeda in Iraq — which didn’t exist before our invasion — and overlooks the people who hit us on 9/11, who are training new recruits in Pakistan. He lumps together groups with very different goals: al Qaeda and Iran, Shiite militias and Sunni insurgents. He confuses our mission.

In doing so, he is able to reframe the terms of the debate and make the case for a fundamentally different foreign policy:

And worse — he is fighting the war the terrorists want us to fight. Bin Ladin and his allies know they cannot defeat us on the field of battle or in a genuine battle of ideas. But they can provoke the reaction we’ve seen in Iraq: a misguided invasion of a Muslim country that sparks new insurgencies, ties down our military, busts our budgets, increases the pool of terrorist recruits, alienates America, gives democracy a bad name, and prompts the American people to question our engagement in the world.By refusing to end the war in Iraq, President Bush is giving the terrorists what they really want, and what the Congress voted to give them in 2002: a U.S. occupation of undetermined length, at undetermined cost, with undetermined consequences.

It is time to turn the page.

That’s a good start, though it needs to be more than a speech and be the basis of a consistent challenge to current foreign policy. That’s the only way the ideas in the speech will have a meaningful impact in shaping the debate.

Consider George W. Bush’s recent pronouncement that the US should have stayed longer and blown up more shit in Vietnam and that leaving Vietnam was a disaster that caused all sorts of other problems including the Killing Fields of Cambodia.  Of course, the Khmer Rouge could never have taken power had the US not destablished Cambodia’s government by, you know, bombing Cambodia as part of its war in Vietnam and of course it was the Vietnamese Communist government the invaded Cambodia and toppoled the Khmer Rouge regime.

Conservative foreign policy - especially it’s Bushie incarnation - is a one trick pony called “strength” - in which strength is only expressed by using the US Military to invade, conquer, and pacify brown people.  In this world, you’re either a “strong” person who is willing to do those things, or your a weak appeaser, a dirty fucking hippy who would rather let the “terrorists” win that fight for America.

Of course, I’ll take Option C - or D or E or F or  . . . . there a lot of them.  These options include all kinds of alternate actions.  consider what we could have accomplished in the last 4 years if we’d spent the a billion dollars a day investing in R & D to achieve energy independence, to develop alternatives to oil.  What could have happened if in the waning days of 2001 the US had gone to the UN and said “Look, radical Islamists like Al Qaeda are a problem.  The world needs to deal with this problem together - we want to be part of developing a worldwide solution that invites even those groups to the table to stop the violence” - and then actually done so.  Or we’ve we’d gone to our good friends the Saudi royal family and said, “Bin Laden is your creation and he’s your problem.  We expect you to deal with him.  And until you do, we’re buying all our oil exclusively from Russia, Venezuala and Mexico.”  Or we could have done all the above.

“Strategic” thinking in its conservative form is simplistic, driven by fear, and ignores a huge array of options available to us, engages in actions that close of other productive avenues and leave us with progressively fewer and worse choices.  The war in Iraq has actually made things worse by radicalizing larger segments of Arab population, by exhausting the US military and driving it to the breaking point, by trapping the US in a situation in which the options range from bad to disastrous.  Conservative thought continues to insist that we must “win” in Iraq.  But begs the question of what it would mean to actually win and why victory would matter.  By following simpliistic policies, the Bush administration has acted on exaggerated fears and created an environment in which choices really are simple - stay in Iraq or leave.  There’s no middle ground between those choices, unfortunately.  Option C, D, E, F, G and so forth existed before the invasion of Iraq.  Once the invasion occurred, we lost those options forever. 

The great intellectual failure of American conservatism lies not in its blind adherence to the magic of the “market” or its hostility to government, but in its Manichean dualism that sees the world as an ongoing and endless battle between good and evil, absent shades of gray.  Informed by dualism, embracing either/or dichotomies, American conservatives live in a fantasy world in which “Islam” is about to overwhelm the west and only a great struggle of civilizations can prevent it.  I realize it sounds snarky, but such an analysis doesn’t actually consider the real Islamic world of today - which strikes me as a collection of increasingly diverse nations in which Islam is a common religion but not a force of unity - until we western declare war on all Muslims.  A war which Islamic fundamentalists gleefully celebrate.

Ultimately, Karen Armstrong was spot on correct - our fundamentalists have more in common with their fundamentalists than they do with our moderates.

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6 Responses to “I’ll Take Option C Please”

  1. Larry Bergan Says:

    Here’s a bit of propaganda that I like to catapult all the time. Jimmy Carter had a plan to not except one more drop of oil from the middle east above levels of that time, and to conserve and par down our use of non-renewables. Then Ronald Reagan came in with his great optimism and started saying WE ARE AMERICANS, AND WE CAN USE AS MANY RESOURCES AS WE WANT.

    It has come out recently in Reagan’s memoirs that he had been dreading the day when someone would ask him to find his vice president’s son a job. He considered George Jr. to be “shiftless.” Somebody who had never held a real job all his life.

    Reagan must be spinning in his grave or at least “acting” like it. After all, he acted like he was the president for eight years while his vice president pulled all the military- industrial levers, (of course I have no proof of that because the Bush crime family is better at covering up their involvement in crime then any other thing they do. With the help of corporate media.)

    Hmmm… Why not use a similar model in the future with dead-beat Jr. “acting” as president and Dick, (I’ll just appoint myself), Cheney as lever puller.

  2. Larry Bergan Says:

    Sorry Glendon, I got a bit off topic there talking about Jimmy Carter, but he is a man who would have a plan C rather then this “Left Behind” crap.

  3. glenn Says:

    Larry; It was Carter that declared all of Colorados’ Garfield County Western Slope, and much of the area of Eastern Utah into a National Energy Sacrifice Zone. It has been that ever since he declared it, so it should come as no surprise that the triangle of geography comprised of the points of Glenwood Springs CO., Grand Junction CO., and Price UT. are being currently being ruthlessly exploited. Don’t you remember national malaise and synfuels?

    In this triangle is a 13 ft thick member of coal, and another 5-6 ft thick. The coal is low sulphur bitimunous coal, associated with it is masses of methane gas, in which 140,00o gas wells in CO. alone have been Federally approved. There is also OIL in Sigurd UT.

    Dear Larry, once you realize all these bastards, Carter included, are on the same team, and it isn’t ours, we MAY have a chance for some real change.

  4. Larry Bergan Says:

    glenn:

    I don’t remember any of the environmental groups getting upset until Reagan took over. I was pretty young when James Watt got in as Secretary Of The Interior. Carter was treated like he had almost ruined the country and Reagan was like Ben Cartwright riding back into town to bring order out of chaos. It was a bunch of lies.

    I don’t know all of the intricacies of Carters plan to get off of middle eastern oil, but I do know he was going to promote renewable resources.

    To say that Carter is on the same team as these unconscionable psychopaths that stole our elections and are sending us to hell is just nonsense and won’t help us get back on the path to sanity. It’s true that many Democrats are compromised by money, but get real.

  5. glenn Says:

    It is a part of history Larry, the poison gilsonite piles are all over Grand Junction CO. having been used as fill in the local construction industry, it’s under peoples’ houses built back in the day. carters’ signature is on the approved federal documents for the entire failed project, which was carried out by EXXON. Ignore the complicity and lack of difference between both parties at your own peril.

    The piles of uranium tailings in your own state? Served up under democratic administrations for the purposed of obtaining weapons grade uranium. What more do want? Your delusions are DANGEROUS!! Is it not true that the democrats voted lock stock and barrel to approve the Iraq debacle? Well, what now? Are you DENYING IT?

    When the carter approved nonsense was abandoned by exxon, people often quietly put the keys to their mortgaged houses under the doormat, and just left town. It all happened very quickly. More than a few Coloradans are wary of the current gas boom, which the current democratically controlled congress is doing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to reign in. Friends that work in the industry say environmental guidelines barely exist, and the biggest violator is encana, a canadian firm, with a long history of never cleaning up its messes. Pay attention and quit being a partisan, it makes no sense given the evidence.

    We need only look back to the last few months when democratic leadershit marched in lockstep in approving the surge. C’mon already, you are living in your own bubble.

  6. Larry Bergan Says:

    Don’t get me wrong about my feelings of today’s Democrats glenn. I hate how they never speak up when they have every right to, but stop going overboard when talking about their similarities to the Republican thugs. That’s why I get so mad at you, that it’s hard to have a discussion. This is a tactic used by the Republicans to make the Democrats give up and I’m not so sure you’re not one of them.

    The Republicans, (every single one of them), always vote against the people of this country on every issue. The rare times one or two of them don’t is to fool us. The overwhelming majority of Democrats always vote on the side OF the people and that included the vote to give Bush the power to invade Iraq.

    The fact that the Democrats have taken over the senate has resulted in Karl Rove and Alberto stepping down in shame because of the attorney firings. Aren’t you glad they took power from the Republicans or would you rather they hadn’t?

    That being said. I am dog tired of both sides greasing each other up with corporate money and would actually like to see one of those knock down, drag out fights in other countries congress they always show on the news here to make us think we’re more civil. Or at the very least, I’d like to see the kind of raucous debate you can see in Britain’s House Of Commons.

    I mean, truly, wouldn’t you love to see Harry Reid stop obfuscating and use his boxing skills to just haul off and slug Trent Lott or any one of these other lying bastards and send them crying to their mommies.

    I’m sorry, but I would!

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