Cliff LyonPeople Are Outraged About the Taser Incident at FSU
…And the cannot, will not, and must not die.
The YouTube videos of the incident at Florida State University (posted below) are well over a million views and still smokin’.
The anger and frustration over this incident is not pretty. But, at this point, it is as it should be.
As a reminder, the president of The University of Florida, Bernie Machen, was president of the U of U. He did issue a statement, albeit about as weak as one could possibly imagine, and sent this equally weak e-mail. Personally, I was disappointed.
I would recommend NOT sending your kids to FSU if her or she is a free thinker with a traditional view of civil liberties, at least until Bernie gives us the all clear.
The gloves are off.
September 19th, 2007 at 4:18 pm
These are my People, I can stand with them. The rest of you chasing down answers from the old established power structure, consider this as the unstoppable force. These young have been taught nonsense, and live in a reality, most with money and station cannot comprehend. It is so right, and better late, than never. Reminds me so much of history of the grievances the colonies had with their crown “parent”.
It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people’s minds.
Samuel Adams
September 19th, 2007 at 8:59 pm
Of course there is always this possibility. Are we able to determine truth.
Makow - Student Tasering
Smacks Of Psy-Op
By Henry Makow PhD
9-19-7
The tasering of University of Florida student Andrew Meyer 21, Tuesday looks like a B.F. Skinner experiment designed to let the mice know they will receive a painful shock if they raise sensitive political subjects in public.
On the other hand, if they are supportive, as the students who cheered when Meyer was dragged away, they will continue to get their food and sex.
I don’t know if this incident was staged. I want to believe it wasn’t. But on some unseen signal, campus cops lunged at Meyer when he mentioned Kerry’s membership in “Skull and Bones” and brandished a copy of Greg Palast’s book “Armed Madhouse,” which stated Kerry actually had won the election.
Meyer’s questions were extremely relevant. He asked Kerry why he conceded the 2004 Presidential election the same day in spite of numerous voting irregularities. “Didn’t you want to win?” Meyer demanded.
Meyer was implying that Kerry might have thrown the election because he belonged to the same Illuminati secret society as Bush.
When he was grabbed, he said, “Get away from me. I want to hear the answer.”
Meyer was dragged away shouting, “Help! Help! What did I do? What did I do?”
Then he pleads with the officers: “Don’t taser me bro’” He offers to “walk out of here” if they’ll only let him go.
Then we hear him scream with pain “Ow..ow..ow…ow!”
Kerry’s respect for the public and commitment to free speech was evident from his response. While Mayer was manhandled and tasered, Kerry droned on about how he wanted to answer this important question.
He even made a joke of it: “Unfortunately [Meyer] is not available to swear me in as President.”
The painful incident was filmed from many angles . I urge you to watch as many as you can stomach.
PUBLIC REACTION
The reaction of the crowd was initially to cheer Meyer’s question about not contesting the election, but it quickly fell silent. Then some cheered when Meyer was arrested. Some people protested, “police brutality” or “why are you doing that?” when Meyer was being tasered.
The media reported this widely. Drudge had it as a main headline. But while there was exposure, there was also spin. CNBC said Meyer had been a heckler, which is very unlikely since he began his questions by thanking Kerry for his speech. Fox News apparently commended the campus cops for using the taser.
Meyer was not without fault. He insisted on asking three questions and delivering a short prologue, saying Kerry had spoken for two hours, surely he could have two minutes. His tone was indignant. He broke away while being led out.
In situations like this, we must strive for credibility by behaving in a calm, rational, non-threatening manner.
PSY OP?
At least one Internet commentator “Withowlseyeswatch” (comment 39) is suspicious:
“If you have the time, watch the video of the Florida student incident about 20 times. Turn off the audio and watch. You will begin to see some interesting details not obvious to a person overcome with emotions seeing it for the first time. There are a couple of angles being shot from other spots around the room that fill in parts not seen.
If you have the time, close your eyes and just listen to the audio. Pick out the different voices and follow them through. Listen to Kerry in the background a couple of times through. He droned throughout the entire incident as if he were hypnotizing the crowd. His remarks were very strange.
Watch the girl cop at the beginning. See how she looks over to take her cue to make her move. Why were cops standing five feet behind the student? …
Did you see part 2 when the officers whisked him down stairs? He was not the victim of electric shock. He was not in shock. He was excited by the impact of his improvisation. He was working like the devil to keep the drama going because his mates were running low on creative juices. They didn’t know what to do. This was nothing more than street theater.
….Something was amusing to the surrounding students. Is it possible that the students who were laughing and sitting without reaction was because they knew this fellow to be a trickster?”
The prominence given Palast’s book is suspicious because he apparently makes a case that Osama bin Laden and a Muslim terrorist network were responsible for 9-11. All and all, given the mass media coverage, this incident was probably staged.
This video shows the aftermath. Meyer doesn’t look like a man who has been tasered. He is told he is being arrested for “inciting a riot.” He tells onlookers to inquire after him because “they are going to try and kill me.”
It gets even more weird. Meyer has a website which has received 150,000 visits since yesterday. The site does not appear to be political. On it he is selling a “pimp light” which “as a good Jew” he is offering at a “good price” ($89.) Apparently he has a history as a prankster.
http://www.local10.com/news/14138122/detail.html?rss=mia&psp=news#
CONCLUSION
If this event was staged, what was the purpose? Was it to tell Americans to behave or else? Was it to incite us to rebel? Was it to blame Muslims for 9-11? Was it to sell a “pimp light,” and trivialize the most important issues of our day? Was it all of the above? To confuse and disgust? The Illuminati have a practice of creating false opposition.
In any case, you can bet the people at Tavistock are studying it closely. They are constantly studying our group behavior to manipulate us and discover how much they can get away with.
They got away with 9-11 and now they are warning they (”Al Qaeda”) are going to do it again.
Increasingly we are tasked with the question: How much of this nonsense will we put up with? Are we men or are we mice?
Thanks to “N” for her tips and research.
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Henry Makow Ph.D. is the author of “Cruel Hoax: Feminism and the New World Order.” (www.cruelhoax.ca) His articles can be found at his web site http://www.henrymakow.com He enjoys receiving comments, some of which he posts on his site using first names only. hmakow@gmail.com
September 20th, 2007 at 7:45 am
Let me recommend one of my favorite blogs, Danger Room, for a series of articles on tasers and taser abuse. You can read about the taser shotgun, wireless tasers and robots with tasers.
September 20th, 2007 at 8:47 am
The taser issue aside, over on DailyKos a John Kerry staffer tells us what happened before the videos were shot:
Maybe this explains why the students in the video I saw on TV are applauding the campus police for finally hauling Meyer away after he disrupted the forum.
September 20th, 2007 at 11:32 am
I remember John Kerry not answering a question about his “skull and bones” days in the 2004 election by just laughing and giving the impression that it was just a silly, silly thing to have to answer any questions about a silly college fraternity.
I’m sorry, but there are a disproportionate number of very powerful people in our government today who were a part of this “silly” organization who took a solemn vow of loyalty to each other throughout their lives, (this is the way I understand it anyway.)
Kerry said he wanted to answer the students question. Well, John, answer his question about where your true loyalties lie. Are they to the constitution and people of the United States or to your “silly, (creepy)” college fraternity? Why did you fold like a cheap lawn chair when you know the people who gave their time, money, blood, sweat and tears to make SURE another election was not stolen in this country worked so hard for you.
Answer the question John! If you don’t, you’re the one who is “out of line”, not the student who asked the EXACT questions all of the conscious people in this country want answered. We are not “conspiracy theorists” just because we want our votes counted or get some answers about where your true allegiance lies.
September 20th, 2007 at 11:52 am
I wondered whether this was a staged event myself, because the deceivers among us who use television to make fools of us have been walking closer and closer to the edge of reality when staging their fake events, however, I am thinking they wouldn’t have had this student ask these questions, because they strike right at the heart of the deceivers like Karl Rove, Bush and Cheney.
There are two issues that simply do not come up on television. Stolen elections and 911 conspiracy.
I think this student, as obnoxious as he was, is probably at the end of his rope like the rest of us. He just decided to do something about it.
If this was another grand farce staged on the very edge of reality, I hope every one of these scum fall to their deaths. Kerry and Gore need to stop joking about stolen elections and get DEAD serious before another presidential election goes into the toilet!
September 20th, 2007 at 1:08 pm
Whether pre-meditated as a stunt by this student or not, police acted with excessive force. There was clearly no threat to anyone, unless you consider verbalization a threat. There was no incite to riot; one can clearly hear the boos in the crowd. The reaction from these “officers” is typical of the “zero tolerance” that is in place at so many universites. This action was an attitude. It is this type of reaction that led to the Kent State killings: police power gone bad. These officers and those like them around the country that jump to excessive force for such petty incidents should be fired before they kill. This should be classified as a “serious error”. In most companies in America, a serious error is grounds for dismissal.
September 21st, 2007 at 12:47 am
One of the reasons I originally thought this was a fake happening is because when I heard just the audio, it sounded like it was a different guy asking questions about “skull and bones” and I thought somebody jumped in to disrupt the answer.
All kinds of strange things have been going on lately involving activists at events. When Petraeus was giving his testimony the other day, he was interrupted by some observers that were at the hearing. The Republican presiding over the hearing banged his gavel and told the police to get the people yelling and everybody with them out of the room. When Petraeus finished his statement, there were many more people then before disrupting the hearing, but this time the camera turned to reveal a large group of people wearing pink costumes and pink crowns acting similarly to the student at Kerry’s speech. Basically kicking and screaming and acting like the police were hurting them.
My first thought was, if the chairman of the hearing asked for everybody to be removed BEFORE the end of Petraeus statement, why were they still there. They were wearing pink clothes and crowns for crying out loud. It wasn’t as if they were hard to see. Besides that, how in the crap did these people in pink get in this hearing in such huge numbers. It looked like they comprised about one third of the audience. How is that possible? You can’t tell me the Republicans who staged this Petraeus farce would have let them in, unless there was a reason or an advantage for them.
I hate this!
September 21st, 2007 at 7:47 am
Larry, I know Chairman of the House Armed Services Committee Ike Skelton (D-MO) could be mistaken for a Republican, but technically he’s not one.
September 21st, 2007 at 10:40 am
Richard:
I stand corrected. Because of the last several years of Republican rule, I’m so used to seeing them lord over us that I had a brain fart. I really have no knowledge of Skelton.