Media ignorance of Wexler’s efforts confound me. It seems right up their alley, in the sense that it would make for “exciting teevee.”

As a somewhat relevant tangent, I’m on the diary rescuing team at MyDD.com, and there is one diarist that each week writes eloquently about Wexler and the impeachment efforts. Most diaries there receive hundreds of comments each. The impeachment diaries often go unnoticed.

Is this a taboo topic even for progressives? And why? I become less interested in impeachment talk as this administration wanes, but it has always peaked my curiosity that it was so quickly stomped by leadership and progressive media figures without a fight.

Still, Wexler has put some serious work into this. That is a lot of signatures.

Thanks for posting this Richard.

Cliff, from Conants perspective as chief propagandist, it’s… Kucinich….Wexler…Space-case, kifi-kifi (same, same).

Fewer and fewer are making that purchace these days however. But you knew that.

Why aren’t any of these ‘honorable’ men confessing, turning themselves in?

Cliff:

I’m not putting down people who claim to have seen a UFO. I’m just putting down the tactic of using these things against anybody who questions the authorities of America. It’s been working to their advantage for decades. It’s like a post hypnotic suggestion. All you have to do is say the acronym UFO and people start rolling their eyes.

With that being said, Carl Sagan’s take on it was that he didn’t think aliens would care enough about earth to ever take the time to come here. I just don’t know.

Going to YouTube is a laborious process for me because it takes a half hour to see each clip with dial-up.

Thanks Richard; Always make charges carried against your client at best Pyhrric victories. bush is the master.

In order for there to be a speedy trial, the accused must be first charged, and the offended can’t seem to get it together. Maybe we can convict bush after he passes, retroactively, that would be easy. Look the barn door is open and he’s getting away.

It can’t be stronger than Monicagate, because see that ended up in clintons’ impeachment. The charge against bush will be stronger only if he is impeached AND removed from office. Clocks ticking, there is no chance.

In retrospect, it should be called “hypocritegate”

Out of the gate came running Henry Hyde, Newt Gingrinch, Bob Livingston, Tom Delay, and Bob Barr.

I don’t know whether Barr ever cheated on his wife, but in Michael Moore’s “The Awful Truth” DVD, there is a clip where Mike stops Barr to ask about whether the stories that he had licked whipped cream off of a ladies breast at a party were true. Bob, to his credit, doesn’t lie and says something like ‘Yeah, and everybody keeps bringing it up!’

The good news is that none of these people are still in Washington. At least not officially.

“It isn’t whether you win or lose, it’s how you play the game”. Progressive ideology

“Winning isn’t everything, it’s the only thing”. neo con ideology.

In a Machiavellian world…who “wins”?

Do we need to ask? Stop being an idiotic doormat progressives with some trite “welcome, step on me” crap woven into it.

Richard, there are no aims apart from funneling monies into fellow cronies pockets.

“Result: an unwinnable occupation of Iraq”.

That will cost the taxpayers a trillion dollars, maybe more if they can drag it out that long. The more “unwinnable” the better to a neo con. Mo money if you know what I mean. The whole point of unwinnable war is profit for minority.

Richard:

Greg Palast thinks the administration actually had a strategy of making sure not enough oil was produced in Iraq on purpose to keep the price high. What do you think about that theory?

Larry, in all fairness, running the United States for your own purposes isn’t a game. There are no rules if seizing power is what you are up to, other than to crush opposition, and continue to “win”. This isn’t cheating, it is putsch, and we are in the big middle of it.

Yes differences, one is a consistent winner, the other a consistent loser.

The democrats that defeat reps often have winning as the only thing. You must win to effect change.

Hey, one geo-political reason for the Iraq war was to deprive that source of oil to china. Oil is hard to transport, and the ME is the logical place the chinese would get what they need. As for keeping the price high, that the war does that is a great side benefit for the connected.

glenn:

They’re winning the game, but it’s obvious to everyone now that they’ve lost the trust of the world and their own people. They can’t prop up any of their own arguments so they spend their time censoring others. We’re very close to a complete rejection of all ideologies that don’t make sense. The Pope got rejected from an appearance recently because of his 12th century ideas about the nature of the universe and Hucklebee just took himself out of the race for saying he wanted to base the constitution on the old testament.

I think the professional liars are growing more tired by the day. Unfortunately, we’re all in for some rough times because it’s going to be hard to convince the world that we ever gave a crap about them. We did! It just doesn’t look that way because the control freaks wouldn’t allow us to get away from the fossil fuels infrastucture which was discredited 30 years ago when OPEC made people stand in line for their gas.

Get rid of the House of Bush, (which has nothing whatsoever to do with the White House), and we can start down the path to redemption.

Alright, it’s a little naive, but it still makes sense.

They are polite and receptive, yes, but then Orrin / Matty goes off and votes for / against the very proposition I just pitched against / for.

I’m beginning to appreciate GW’s position that “… only if I’m the dictator”. Never really having a say…now, that’s another matter. And don’t call me ‘door-mat’.