Congratulations to Ken Bingham for having his work posted on Michelle Malkin dot bitch.
Ken, you are truly talented. I’m so glad the two of you found each other. She needs friends.
I think it would be really funny to do something for Sen Tom Davis’ comment,
“The Republican brand is so bad, if it were a dog food, it would be taken off the shelf.”
One more thing. If anyone is wondering what happened to the Republican brand, besides the fact of a corrupt, lying, traitorous, punk-ass administration, and and the entire republican congress who fell in line like the scum sucking tribal loyalists they are…
just ask.
pssst: It has something to do with Republican voters too.
#1 by Ken Bingham - May 19th, 2008 at 18:20
Thanks for the post in my honor. So Cliff do you think the GOP would benefit with a shift to the left like Gov. Schwarzenegger is advocating? I think some of your complaints against the GOP is accurate, but it isn’t conservatism that caused the corruption. It was people drunk with power that forgot why they were elected. The Democrats got drunk with power too and lost thier 40 year control of Congress because of it. Now the Republicans are repeating History. If the Republican party would get back to true conservativism, not neo-conservativism but back to the basic principles this country was founded upon (minus the slavery part) then the Republican Party could get back in the country’s good graces again.
Conservative in Exile
Ken Bingham
#2 by Cliff - May 19th, 2008 at 20:12
Yeah. They need to shift back to where Nixon was. And lose the God, Guns, and Gay bullshit (stop trying to appeal to people like you and jdberger)
Oh yeah, and start acting like family men and women instead of whores.
#3 by Larry Bergan - May 19th, 2008 at 20:13
The only way for the Republican party to get back in the country’s good graces again is to become very contrite and serve their time. Then comes probation. Michelle Malkin will have to serve a life sentence for being weird and macabre.
I laughed out loud when I saw the title and subtitle of this post.
#4 by Cliff - May 19th, 2008 at 20:50
Truth is, there needs to be a hanging. Republicans must hand up their Decider and Chimp.
#5 by cav - May 19th, 2008 at 20:54
He pulls his head our for a sec, crafts up a little polluted water from some remote Indian water-table, and suggests he’s an exile. Wow, just wow.
Some mental illneses are incurable. They just go on and on. There’s always the straight-jacket, but that’s just to keep the patient from hurting themself or lashing out at someone else. And Drugs, there are mind-numbing drugs, chemical straight-jackets. And, of course there’s COKE. Did you contact thier copyright agent? Ken? Hello?
So sorry. Cliff, aren’t you a lawyer, can ya help a fella blog-nut?
#6 by Ken Bingham - May 19th, 2008 at 22:15
CAV
I think I’m well within the “Fair use” law where it comes to parody and satire. Courts have held that if a parody is aimed at the product itself then it is legally protected. With my photoshop I am making fun of both, and comparing the “New Coke” fiasco in the 80s with rebranding the GOP.
Here is some documentation of “Fair use” and the law.
#7 by jdberger - May 20th, 2008 at 00:06
Cav’s good for “parody”. Mattel v. MCA Records.
http://www.barbieslapp.com/abuses/aqua.pdf
With opinion by my favorite 9th Circuit Justice (and hopefully new appointee to SCOTUS).
Yeah…confused about this one, Cliff. I’m pretty sure that every President of the US after Grant was an NRA member. That includes quite a number of Democrats.
Don’t quite know where you got the God and gays stuff. Just throwing spaghetti at the wall? Or is it your fabled internet research skills?
#8 by Ken Bingham - May 20th, 2008 at 01:01
Cliff, I made this just for you.
#9 by cav - May 20th, 2008 at 04:55
Poor doggie. If it were a conservative…
Really Ken, I take back everything I wrote about mental illness, as it might regard you. Sorry.
#10 by Cliff - May 20th, 2008 at 07:17
Nice Ken!
#11 by rmwarnick - May 20th, 2008 at 08:04
Over at Sadly, No! They can’t resist enjoying Michelle Malkin’s last throes:
#12 by Larry Bergan - May 20th, 2008 at 14:08
Too bad about the little doggie. Unfortunately he’s going to have to eat the top-down crap they give him at the GOP.
Lighten up on Cliff you guys. He’s giving you all the freedom of speech you could ever want and doesn’t even solicit for donations.
The God, Guns, and Gays phrase was invented by Howard Dean in the 2004 stolen election to call attention to the right wing tactic of keeping things simple for people who didn’t want to spend the time to find out what they were talking about. Another example would have been when Clinton was being impeached and parrots from the right, who didn’t care anything about constitutional law, but loved watching a Democrat lose, could go around saying “BUT, HE LIED” to every single argument that came up.
This is a true story. A couple of weeks ago, I asked one of our employee’s husbands, whom I had never talked to before, why he was going to vote for McCain against his own interests. His reply was “YOU’RE NOT GETTING MY GODDAMNED GUN” and ended the argument by telling me he was going to call corporate headquarters and tell them to fire me for talking politics on the job.
You gun guys here are obviously trying harder then this idiot to find out what the constitution stands for, but I really don’t know how you can be so focused on that one issue and ignore the fact that your votes are not necessarily being counted at the polls and don’t match up with the exit polls as they have for over 30 years. Bob S. commented about my “Hacking Democracy” post and said something about it not being illegal to steal votes.
You live to see liberals lose, even when it hurts your fellow countrymen and yourselves. If you don’t like that statement, then you can, (as Scalia would say), “Get over it!”
#13 by jdberger - May 20th, 2008 at 14:24
Ahh…the old canard that people who vote Republican vote against their self interests. That’s a good one, Larry.
And it’s pretty amusing to think that you consider us all Republicans because we oppose government control of our Liberties. That’s hysterical.
You’re always good for a laugh, Larry.
#14 by Bob S. - May 20th, 2008 at 14:46
Larry,
Unless you are deleting comments, I don’t see where I’ve commented on your Hacking Democracy post.
Could you point me to where I’ve said this?
#15 by Larry Bergan - May 20th, 2008 at 15:08
Bob S:
I provided a link to my post “Hacking Democracy” here asking what you thought about “gaming the voting system..
You gave this reply:
here.
Is that really the depth of your commitment to free and fair elections?
#16 by Larry Bergan - May 20th, 2008 at 15:17
Woops! I really messed up that post, but you get the gist.
#17 by jdberger - May 20th, 2008 at 15:19
That’s a good question, Larry. When did it become against the rules to follow the rules?
Is it only when you don’t get the outcome that you think you deserve?
You’re starting to sound like Cliff “move the goalposts” Lyon.
#18 by Larry Bergan - May 20th, 2008 at 15:29
So, that means it’s within the rules to game the voting system with hackable machines? Why do we bother with elections?
I have to go to work now. At least that will be less stressfull then this conversation.
#19 by Bob S. - May 20th, 2008 at 16:47
Larry,
Hacking the machines is illegal, e.g. NOT FOLLOWING THE RULES. That isn’t hard to understand.
Did the primaries allow anyone to vote in them? Should people be allowed to vote for someone in the primary and then vote for someone else in the presidential election?
Perhaps you don’t know because we, or at least I am, only addressing this one issue here. But I have made other comments on the blogs here about other issues. I’ve called Cliff to task about wanting to violate our right to free speech and right to assembly. Did you call him to task about that or blow it off?
Cliff isn’t running for election, but he is voting for those who do want to violate our rights. And all three to some degree want to do that…Barack and Hillary more so than McCain (but not by much).
#20 by jdberger - May 20th, 2008 at 22:46
What does this mean, Larry? Everything is “hackable”. Paper ballots can be trashed. Polling places can mysteriously close. Ballot boxes mysteriously disappear, then reappear…? So, what is this supposed to mean, “game the system with hackable machines”?
Who gamed the system?
What machines were hackable?
Do you have any evidence that the “hackable” machines were hacked?
Did Mayor Daly have anything to do with it?
Is there an overly made-up chick from Florida somehow running everything?
Is it all a charade?
How can you fix it if the Bilderbergers are really in control?
Was Louis Farrakhan right?
Are psychedelics the path to enlightenment?
Is schizophrenia a symptom of overuse?
Really Larry – you’re fighting the last war, Babe. Move on. Accept the loss and seize the future. Otherwise, you are going to end up with this wierd degenerate crippling hatred that will turn you into some under-the-bridge intollerable troll that no one wants to talk to.
Move on.
Move on.
#21 by Larry Bergan - May 21st, 2008 at 00:38
Bob S said:
Well thank goodness. You might see the danger here after all. That beats the heck out of your previous comment:
But, honestly, is that all you have to say about the machines? Maybe you should put down your gun long enough to discover other threats to our Republic. I don’t have time to worry about any idiots in my party who would vote for McCain out of spite, but if what you say is true, (that McCain, Obama, and Hillary want to violate our rights), what can we do about that if we can’t vote them out? Are we going to go right from the soapbox the the ammo box?
Please watch “Hacking Democracy” this month on HBO. It is an excellent place to start learning about this very real threat to our ability to determine our own futures.
And once again…
Lighten up on Cliff you guys. He’s giving you all the freedom of speech you could ever want and doesn’t even solicit for donations.
#22 by Larry Bergan - May 21st, 2008 at 01:08
Oh jd! For God’s sake! Let me try to answer your questions…
Both parties voted for these terrible machines. I wish it weren’t true.
All brands that were purchased in the entire country. The two machines that may have worked were forced out of business.
Nope. But you have to admit that Al Gore getting negative 12,000 votes on one machine, and a precinct with around 600 people registered having over 4,000 people voting for Bush seems a little weird. (just one of a myriad of problems that ALWAYS favored the Republicans)
Mayor Daly is dead. I know you guys are great history buffs, but can we concentrate on thefts more recent then 40 years ago please?
Not anymore.
No. Charades is a fun game. Election fraud against my party isn’t.
We outnumber them.
I have no idea what you’re talking about.
Nobody likes a smart aleck with a fake name, jd. Just your last post damaged my brain more then any thousand acid trips could. You and Michelle Malkin should think about SOME path to enlightenment, because what you’re doing now ain’t workin’!
#23 by Bob S. - May 21st, 2008 at 05:18
Larry,
I think you are making the same mistake as Cliff, but with a different tool.
Can the voting machines be hacked, yes. Have they? I don’t know, I haven’t seen any proof. The real question isn’t about the machines but the system that makes election fraud possible.
Chicago is a great example, check out how many dead people vote in elections there. Does it matter if the dead people voted using paper ballots or electronic machines, no it doesn’t.
Election fraud is very different from gaming the system, which was the original post. Gaming the system is using the legal rules to your perceived advantage. Thus some people voted for Hillary because they believe she will be easier to beat later; just like some people voted for McCain.
Your conspiracy theories are interesting but if you are really concerned, have you done anything about it? Volunteered to work a polling station? Investigated the fraud claims and presented evidence to the newspaper or district attorneys?
Conservative or Liberal, both sides cheat. I don’t think it’s a political philosophy issues as much as a power issue. As the saying goes, “Power Corrupts, Absolute Power Corrupts Absolutely”, it’s our job to limit the governments power.
#24 by Larry Bergan - May 21st, 2008 at 15:19
Bob S:
I have donated much of my life since the stolen election of 2000 to volunteer work involving anything that would bring about fair elections. You can google my name to find out I’m telling you the truth about that.
You seem to be one of the types of conservatives who doesn’t care that the 2000 and subsequent elections have been stolen because your side won. You think it’s your turn to steal them because you think Democrats and liberals are conniving to take power.
There is nothing I can do to convince you. You won’t even read my post about the documentary “Hacking Democracy” let alone watch the show, which, by the way is utterly nonpartisan.
In case you haven’t noticed, it’s the Republicans who have had absolute power recently and maybe that’s the reason 99.9% of all election anomalies work in their favor. I can point you to a thousand stories that verify that, but as I said, you don’t care, because you think it’s your turn to commit the fraud.
#25 by Jenni - May 22nd, 2008 at 11:42
I recently saw an informative film on the problems with our elections: Call it Democracy. It looks at voting issues from the problematic electoral college, to voting machines, to the role of the Supreme Court in cases of election disputes.
Another thing to consider — Diebold president in 2004 also campaigning for Bush and promising Bush a victory in Ohio. Even if there was no wrong doing on Diebold’s part, the fact that they keep their technology a trade secret is a BIG problem. There needs to be complete transparency in our elections. If a vendor doesn’t like that, then we need new vendors.
#26 by Bob S. - May 22nd, 2008 at 11:52
Larry,
Uh, Larry hate to break this to you, but neither side has had absolute power and shouldn’t. But the Republicans aren’t running a tyranny any more than the Democrats.
Support your statement please. Evidence that this is true and not just your opinion.
Unless you have powers not shown, you can’t read my mind. I never approved or condoned fraud. Please retract that libelous statement.
I have said that if the rules allow someone to vote in the primary, then that person should be allowed to do it and that is not illegal. Show me any other statements made to the contrary. Gaming the system may be unethical in some opinions, but if the rules are followed it is not illegal. Just because you or others don’t like it doesn’t change that fact.
#27 by Bob S. - May 22nd, 2008 at 11:57
Jenni,
Not sure how much tech you are aware of, but having a technology used in something as important as this isn’t a big problem but protection from Problems.
Let’s imagine Diebold releases their blueprints and software code…what do you think will happen? I can tell you that in no time, some one will hack the system. Making it harder for that isn’t a problem, it’s protection.
I agree, but there is a difference as I pointed out in transparency and giving away source code. What steps would it take to satisfy you that the elections are fair?
#28 by Larry Bergan - May 22nd, 2008 at 15:02
Bob S:
House Subpoenas Karl Rove
I may get to stop wasting my time trying to get people to understand how the Republicans have been stealing our elections with the machines and every other method now. Governor Don Seigelman and the American people are going to get justice, finally!
#29 by Larry Bergan - May 23rd, 2008 at 00:51
Jenni:
Looks like an interesting movie with some important information. The problem is even deeper then secret software because Diebold even keeps the voting results secret. In Alaska, they sued, just to get access to election results and were denied. Diebold can see those results anytime they want. The people can’t. In Utah, it doesn’t even get as far as a suit.