Gandhi Makes Salt, Mormons Walk to Church
My last post, So What’s Wrong with Superiority, prompted the usual and not unexpected sniping from the Right, who suggested that my rhetoric was windy enough to power a 2 MW windmill. Better that, I replied, than a pinwheel, which is about all the Right’s feeble attempts at a meaningful response could power.
One reader, however, saw a deeper truth in some of the right-wing reactions. I quote his response to give my own that follows some context.
“Somewhere along the way it came to me that snark would save the world. There’s more of course and your essays are a reflection of that. Thank you.
While what we’ve come to know as developement has had comforting effects, it has not been without negative side effects. Nor is developement static.The future holds the entire raft of human and other experience, some of which will be tackled by the human ability to bend our recources in technological ways - always onward and upward. Others, will knock some of us right out. We can only try, and be thankful, and curse.
W3, no less than anyone here, has his position, experience and hopes in directing the conversation. My hope is that in all the discussion, any one reader gets the feeling that there’s room to move, and that with that movement he or she can modify some of the effects of misdirected energy, begin to allow for a more appropriate solution to the problems that we face. The difficult part, and the part that W3 keeps pointing out, is that somewhere along the way it is possible that a problem or complex of problems may very well become INSURMOUNTABLE. He’d have us all face that potential as opposed to denying it.
Thanks.” –CAV
My response to CAV, I thought on reconsideration, is perhaps worthy of a post of its own. So here it is.
CAV, thanks for your comment. Your summary of W3’s pessimism is more positive than his, I think, but the point is well taken. And with that view I must admit to more than a little sympathy. We may in fact be at such a point already. When my dad, Ed Sr., was giving stump speeches against MX twenty years ago, he was fond of quoting a line from Tom Stoppard’s play Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead in which Guildenstern says as they’re about to die (I paraphrase perhaps), “There must have been a time, in the beginning, when we could have said — no. But somehow we missed it.”
As our pair of unwitting assassins discover, it’s hard, maybe impossible, to know when you’ve passed the point of no return. I personally doubt that we’ve reached that point as far as humanity’s survival is concerned. I’m much less sanguine about the survival of our civilization. Under George Bush, we’ve lost eight years, EIGHT YEARS (!)–my contempt for this little toad from Texas is beyond my ability to articulate, though someday I’d like to try to convey just how much I despise him–and our country isn’t yet talking much less working with the urgency that will be needed to reinvent our economy on a sustainable footing. So, W3, if that’s your basic point, I understand your pessimism.
I can’t give in to it, however, for to do that is to ensure that we will fail. Dark as my thoughts are sometimes, I’m essentially an optimist. And the environmental ethic I’ve been advocating is also essentially optimistic. Perhaps all liberal agendas are. They presuppose the hope that we can change for the better.
Hence my question, “What is the alternative?” Neocons are great at tearing down and throwing black bile over the liberal vision (and so far, UNFORTUNATELY, it is primarily a liberal vision) for the future. But they haven’t given us a vision of their own to replace it other than “stay the course.” Can any rational person, seeing the rise in oil prices and the INEVITABLE decline of oil supplies, the catastrophic pollution from our coal-fired power plants, the rising cost of food and the pressure on food supplies, the rise in pollution-related illnesses such as asthma, pneumonia, and even autism suppose that we can go on like this? The nutcakes, to use the term coined by the chief nut, roarin’ Orrin Hatch, are not the liberal ecofreeks but the staid and respectable executives at GM who look surprised when SUVs suddenly become white elephants that they can’t give away. The nutcakes are GM’s minions in congress who feel they’ve done something for the world by imposing CAFE standards for a puny 35 mpg that won’t come into effect for another twelve years! The nutcakes are the real estate developers here in SLC and St. George and the public servants they buy who think that we can pack another 500,000 people into this already poisoned valley and that St. George could become a metropolis of 500,000 to 1,000,000 people. These people are FUCKING crazy!
In the face of such lunacy, it would be easy to say, with W3, that walking to church on Sunday as a solution to our problems is like pissing in the wind. It is and it isn’t. If that’s the limit of what we do, of course it’s meaningless. But a true ethic of conservation isn’t about doing one thing or fifteen things for the environment. It’s a discipline for life, a way of thinking and being that is DIAMETRICALLY opposed to our present lifestyle. Walking to church is simply my Trojan horse for getting people here to start thinking about the consequences of their actions. If THAT becomes the norm, then the rest takes care of itself. Gandhi liberated India through simple acts like making salt on the beaches. I have hope that similarly simple acts here will also change the world.
Of course I’m not going to sit back and wait for the church parking lots to empty themselves. It’s imperative that we get the LDS Church institutionally involved. The Church is key not only to what happens here in Utah, but also to what happens nationally. That may sound odd, as the Church isn’t much of a national player right now. But consider what would happen nationally if an exceedingly wealthy, conservative organization like the Church, the most potent political force between the Mississippi and California, were to declare that it intends to become energy-independent, as the Vatican (though not the Catholic Church as a whole) has recently done. It would send shock waves through the power industry. It would energize the solar industry. And, it would shake the present complacence of LDS membership TO ITS CORE. This single decision could change the entire national debate about energy policy. Years ago, I happened to talk to a guy who had worked in the furniture industry as a supplier for the LDS Church. He told me that the Church is the biggest builder and furnisher of buildings in the U.S. outside the federal government. The Church builds large wardhouses at the rate McDonald’s builds little burger franchises. Think of the market-making potential that the Church has as a result, of which it is probably not even cognizant. This is a big target, a big, hairy, audacious goal. Anyone and everyone who has a connection to the Church should think about how they might try to get the Church to lead the nation in deed. I certainly think about this, and am committed to doing what I can to bring this miracle about.
So, I say to W3 [the chief naysayer in the earlier discussion thread] that LDS folks walking to church is my belweather. When we see the churches full and the parking lots empty, we’ll know that something wonderful is happening in the LDS community, something with profound implications for the rest of us.
Ed Firmage Jr.




July 20th, 2008 at 11:12 am
I am far more optimistic than most Ed, as I have actually made substantive changes in my life years ago. Walking to church sounds like a religious exercise, have at it.
In the end though someday sit down and assess the amount of calories you are burning, that you are not actually burning but are being burned for you. We all know small children like to help, and applaud their industry, but they are not really making contributions to life that are meaningful other than by attitude. Adults carry the show, and the real work gets done by them. Or not. Changes have to meaningful in actual physical terms, or it is just a feel good exercise. Now walking to church for the exercise is another matter entirely, we all know it is good for us, if your health state can allow for it.
This is as simple as I can put it, “False optimism, is true pessimism”.
What I see the progressives doing is really advocating band-aids for cut arteries, shamanic ramblings for cancer, instead of doing the actual work of getting viable systems incorporated into ones own life. Forget the LDS church, do it yourself.
Leading by example it is called I think, as opposed to attempting to directing society through plebecite fiat, and generating the capital from those who do not agree through legislation. Does more harm than good by dividing peoples into their camps based on the ideology or beliefs.
Better that an individual construct the means to a better way, and then watch as that way naturally makes sense to anyone caring to look in. In this country it has to save money, and provide more freedom. Without these elements, it just smacks to opponents as social engineering.
If the LDS members walk to church Ed, it will be more of an indication that it no longer makes sense to drive there with gas at five bucks a gallon, and the money could be better spent driving to the ice cream stand afterwards. One way or another people are going to make their choices, and criticizing them only hardens them in their ways, even if just to spite those judging them.
I can see my words hardening you, they same way yours would harden the LDS church. Yet I figure they may have some impact, they weren’t written to be liked. They had other intentions.
The way of humanity it would seem, upon historical review. It is the conflict that yields the change.
Hey that’s all for now, have to drive 15 miles to the beach to go surfing, something as equally frivolous as driving to church, even at 40 mpg, so who are any of us judge?
July 20th, 2008 at 7:46 pm
I’m not sure how it can be, but I’m in essential agreement with the both of you. W3 has had many names over the years and while his comments are pointed, they are informed, even poetic at times. I’ve gotten alot from your comments and posts as well. As I tried to say again again, there may be a way thru this, but if not, the cosmos might feel a slight twitch, nothing more. I just hate to think that our leaders and thier supporters would greedily have the buck stop on their desk even if it meant soiling the entire place. Now there’s some misguided shit. But our bretheren and sisteren hired em so what ya gonna do? (Excuse me for rephrasing your eloquent question).
Meanwhile, it ain’t over till Mother Earth wraps up her song. Do what you can, make it the good fight.
July 20th, 2008 at 7:58 pm
Actually, it ain’t over until Earth spirals into the sun a billion years or so from now; unless, that is, we kill the planet before hand.
July 20th, 2008 at 10:29 pm
We can’t kill the planet…though we can make the planet unsustainable for ourselves. Planet does a fine job of recycling the variety of inhabitants. It is quite a miracle, and though you may be an atheist, it is a fool that denies that is not, at its essence, a creation.
Of all the things that will truly destroy us, hubris is the most lethal.
Think you are right about all these affairs? Depending on peer review? With such advocates and professionals with sheepskin credentials one would wonder how we all arrive at such a juncture compromised as we are.
There has to be a class that the peer reviewed scientists missed.
I would argue that discipline would be history, despite its distortions, it is the actual litany of human endeavor on Earth, including our relationship with it.
Study up, there is nothing new under the Sun, except for history you don’t know.
Thanks for the support Cav, there is hope yet for the situation yet, but first, all illusions must be shattered. ‘Til then, it is my burden to carry the hammer.
July 20th, 2008 at 10:57 pm
That you agree Cav, could it be…that we are doing our job, and the mop may be swinging both ways?
One Utah, what a concept.
July 21st, 2008 at 7:29 am
Blogging is messy…seriously, can someone help me out here?…my daughter wants to marry some gheis. Paul?