Back during Monica Madness, Edwards said:
“I think this President has shown a remarkable disrespect for his office, for the moral dimensions of leadership, for his friends, for his wife, for his precious daughter. It is breathtaking to me the level to which that disrespect has risen.”
I don’t disapprove of sex between unmarried people. I don’t see a problem with sexual non-exclusivity for married people (provided they’ve agreed to it). My issue is the hypocrisy and the flaming, idiotic censoriousness.
I agree with Feministe:
Bill Clinton and JFK, two presidents rumored to have had large numbers of affairs in addition to those we know about, were consistent in their views of the privacy of human relationships. Edwards, on the other hand?
In late December 2006, in an interview with George Stephanopoulos of ABC News, Edwards said, “Do I believe they should have the right to marry? I’m just not there yet…” (This was during the same time period as his affair with Rielle Hunter).
This seems more reminiscent of Ted Haggard or Larry Craig, taking positions on family values and then specifically contradicting those.
It’s important, in my opinion, for a representative to actually represent her or his stated values. Whether it’s an anti-choice politician who puts his female relatives in a different class from poor women with less access to abortion, or an anti-gay-marriage politician who behaves as if “family values” are important for … others.
Normally, I agree with Debra Haffner but somehow the values she’s stating with which I agree in her post are at odds with the post itself. This paragraph in particular bothers me:
Nothing, really nothing, is ever private between two people. Someone always tells someone. And the less the other person has to lose, the more likely they are to tell more people. In fact, unless it’s your life partner, only have sex with someone who has as much to lose as you do. Sex workers don’t. Neither do women or men in their twenties. Oh, and the scrupulous use of birth control and condoms are not alternative behaviors. One can only hope that Mr. Edwards knows for sure that this is not his child.
For Debra this passage is unusually censorious. It reflects an often unspoken Puritanical attitude one finds among even American liberals concerning sex.
Which brings me to this next idea. H/t to Amanda at Pandagon:
I have profound qualms about any would-be politician who hasn’t allowed him- or herself a moment of untrammeled human or chemical exploration. I fear that the media have driven an awful lot of interesting people away from public service for reasons that would have seemed extreme to the second generation of New England Puritans.
The expectation that politicians will somehow be above all reproach is not only absurd, it’s beyond the pale of human expectation. It suggests to me an embarrassing lack of maturity among Americans. As children we want and expect Mom and Dad to be perfect, to know how to solve every problem, to overcome every obstacle. As we grow older, we should learn to see them as flawed human beings who do very often don’t even do their best and still be able to accept them as human beings. The idea that our leaders should never have sexual indiscretions is the first kind of love – that you must never let me down, you must never be anything but perfect.
It’s time to reconsider how we treat out politicians. If someone talks “family values”, we have every right to expect him/her to walk the talk. You want to lecture the rest of us about how bad homosexualty is? Don’t get it off with men in the airport bathroom. Don’t leave your first wife because she’s not pretty and young and rich enough for you (Yes, John McCain I’m looking at you); don’t divorce your first wife while she’s in the hospital with cancer for a younger woman. Don’t lecture the President on his affair while carrying on one of your own (that means you Newt).
But, if you are consistent in terms of your respect for the privacy of personal relationships, then you have earned the right to have your mistakes and failures remain private. John Edwards lost that right and now he’s reaping the rewards of his own attitudes.



#1 by Matthew Piccolo on August 12, 2008 - 12:11 pm
Good post, thanks for the interesting thoughts.
Of course a politician’s private life affects their public service, everyone’s life outside of work affects their career. While actions in the private and public spheres may be separate, character is consistent in both. Cheating on your spouse could, but not necessarily, lead to cheating the public. Sure, someone who is not married and has not made that commitment and is sexually active is in a different situation, which presents other character issues, but a person who accepts marriage vows and breaks them has betrayed their integrity and the commitment made to their spouse. How would this not carry over to other aspects of life, including career? We all make mistakes, but Edwards’s was pretty hefty.
Read this op-ed I wrote for the school paper last year.
I agree with your consistency argument, but, to me, what you’re implying is that merely choosing not to preach “family values” gives you a free pass to do whatever you want in your “private” live without anyone questioning you. Practicing what you preach is imperative, but it’s also important to practice what is right even if you don’t preach it and to be accountable for your actions as they affect the people you serve.
#2 by Allie on August 12, 2008 - 12:41 pm
Ideally, I’d like to see public figures honor their commitments. It seems like a no-win situation though. Either we have really good liars who we think are honest, or we have bad liars who get caught. I’m a bit worn out with politics in general currently, so it’s easy to be pessimistic.
Edwards cheating on his wife bothers me, but I would rather it stay his own business. The lying about it makes him someone I don’t think I could trust, and I wouldn’t want to be in a position where he was the lesser evil in the voting booth.
Good post.
#3 by Richard Warnick on August 12, 2008 - 1:05 pm
John Edwards, October 11, 2007:
I was going to give him credit for a clever non-denial, given that he now says he never loved Rielle Hunter, and that the affair was over before the National Enquirer report was published. But the Enquirer’s story quoted an anonymous source who said Edwards and Hunter felt guilty and decided to end it. They never accused Edwards of an ongoing affair.
From what we now know, Edwards was flat-out lying by calling the story false.
#4 by Rev. Debra Haffner on August 12, 2008 - 2:46 pm
I’m not sure I understand what you found puritanical in my remarks. Surely not the part about using birth control and condoms? And the part about if you are having sex outside of your primary relationship, the person needs to have equal reasons for keeping that relationship private (if that is important to your career, marriage, or family), well that just seems smart to me. Tell me what you found censoring?
#5 by Glenden Brown on August 12, 2008 - 3:11 pm
Debra – Every time I reread that passage it feels as if you are strongly censuring Edwards – especially the last two sentences about contraception on the paternity of the child. I also feel that you are selling men and women in their 20s short – they may not have the established careers or families but that doesn’t mean they don’t have a great deal to lose – especially the future respect necessary to get those things.
#6 by Anonymous on August 12, 2008 - 8:39 pm
Not to overlook your points about the hypocrisy, and about the censorious policy-maker forfeiting his right to privacy– which are rock solid points.
But I am troubled by the tendency of analysts, when discussing these matters, to belittle the violation of adultery. Or “sexual non-exclusivity between married people,” without the consent of one party, if you like. It’s like we are falling all over ourselves to show how sophisticated and post-moral we are.
I can’t think when I’ve ever been accused of being Puritanical or censorious. But my first reaction to such news is not, “Hope he covered his tracks well.” It’s, “Hell is wrong with that boy?”
How hard is it NOT to have sex with people who are not your wife? Seriously, how much of a lifestyle compromise is that? What kind of sick psychological compulsion makes a man do such a hurtful and destructive thing?
#7 by cav, on August 12, 2008 - 9:38 pm
Is there such a posture as ‘partially post moral’. If someone cant’t keep it zipped, but would be resistant to push-button cluster / daisy-cutter bombing, which side of the post-morality /not-post-morality divide would they be on? I have no one particular in mind.