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August 27th, 2008 by Cliff Lyon Cliff Lyon

Do YOU Really Want More Bush, McCain, Bush, McCain

I am dying to see the outcome of this election because it will tell us how many American voters are still living with fear and greed.

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6 Responses to “Do YOU Really Want More Bush, McCain, Bush, McCain”

bekkieann Says:
August 27th, 2008 at 9:29 am
This morning on MSNBC, Mitt Romney was touting McCain’s strong grasp of the economy as one of his strengths over Obama. It just goes to show, they can and will say pretty much anything they like– true or not.
Richard Warnick Says:
August 27th, 2008 at 9:35 am
I watched “Morning Joe” too, and wondered who invited MITT ROMNEY to the DEMOCRATIC convention? He was even inside the hall last night, in the Faux News booth. Wait a sec, who invited FAUX NEWS?
Larry Bergan Says:
August 27th, 2008 at 4:08 pm
I know this sounds crazy, but I’m positive I heard that Fox News has exclusive say on what goes out over the air concerning the Democratic convention. If what I’ve been experiencing over the last seven years continues, the sources I listen to will be proven true and, in fact, Fox is in charge of the media coverage. Remember the part of “Fahrenheit 911″ when Fox news declared Al Gore didn’t win and all of the other channels started reporting that. There was another instance where a reporter for one of the other networks got candid and admitted she was getting her “marching orders” from Fox News.

One thing is positive. THERE WILL BE NO MENTION OF IMPEACHMENT even though the thought is proliferate in democrats minds right now.

Sigh…
Larry Bergan Says:
August 27th, 2008 at 4:14 pm
Nice video!
jdberger Says:
August 29th, 2008 at 2:25 pm
Larry,

Moore’s film is bunk.

Fox called Florida for Gore at 7:52pm.

At 10:00pm, CNN and CBS retracted the premature Florida win for Gore.

Fox retracted it’s claim at 2:00am. Four hours after CNN and CBS.

FAIL, Larry. Again.
Larry Bergan Says:
August 30th, 2008 at 1:23 am
jdberger:

Gee, I hate to do this to you with your own link, but you’re looking at the wrong place in the document you provided. There was a computer in Volusia County which famously and magically tabulated an impossible -17,000 votes for Gore, (that’s minus votes for Gore with no positive votes), and adds to Bush’s total, causing the networks to inaccurately report the victory.

From your document: (emphases mine)

2:10 AM: The CBS News Decision Desk begins to seriously discuss calling Florida for Bush. According to the new VNS vote count, Bush is ahead by 51,433 votes, with 5,575,730 votes counted in 97 percent of the precincts statewide. The CBS News Decision Desk looks at how many votes are outstanding in three major Democratic counties (Dade, Palm Beach and Broward). The statistical analysis projects that Bush’s margin of victory will remain greater than 30,000 votes even when those counties are factored in. But there is an error in the assumption: instead of the 179,713 votes the VNS model says have yet to be counted, there are in fact about twice as many outstanding votes, many of them absentee ballots from Palm Beach County. Bush’s lead in the VNS count includes the 20,000-vote error undercounting Gore in Volusia County and does not include 4,000 additional votes for Gore in Brevard County. These 24,000 votes would have nearly eliminated the 30,000-vote final Bush margin the CBS News Decision Desk has estimated. There would have been no call if these errors had not been in the system.

2:12 AM: In the AP count, Bush’s margin falls to 47,854. (But again, the Decision Desk is not checking the AP wire.)

2:16 AM: Fox calls Florida for Bush. The immediate reaction of the CBS News analysts is frustration because the CBS News Decision Desk is within minutes of calling the race itself. The CBS News analysts spend the next 90 seconds confirming the numbers.

2:16 AM: NBC calls Florida for Bush.

2:16 AM: The AP lead for Bush drops by 17,000 votes, to 30,000. This 17,000-vote drop, occurring in only four minutes, is the Volusia County correction. But VNS does not catch the correction until later, and no one on the CBS News Decision Desk is watching the AP wire or listening to Bradley’s reporting.

2:16:17 AM: Dan Rather talks with Bradley about outstanding absentee votes and the potentially large number of votes still out in Daytona (Volusia County).

2:17:52 AM: The CBS News Decision Desk calls Florida for Bush, and Rather declares him the winner of the Presidential election.

Fox News - 2:16 am, CBS News - 2:17 am. Oops!

And this, also from the document:

Competitive Pressure

Make no mistake. The Election Night broadcast occurs in a cauldron of competitive heat-heat that comes from within each individual and within each network, all burning to be the best and to be first.

There was a moment during this past Election Night–when Fox called Florida for Bush at 2:16 AM–that several people reported hearing voices in the control room asking excitedly when CBS News could make that call. The executive producer of the CBS News broadcast remembers saying to the Decision Desk representative in the control room, “Take your time. Don’t be stampeded by this.”

Michael Moore’s film is not bunk. This was also covered in the beginning of “Hacking Democracy.”

Do YOU Really Want More Bush, McCain, Bush, McCain

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