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		<title>By: C av</title>
		<link>http://oneutah.org/2008/10/23/the-internet-and-the-death-of-rovian-politics/comment-page-1/#comment-124420</link>
		<dc:creator>C av</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 22:13:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perfecter than the perfectest!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perfecter than the perfectest!</p>
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		<title>By: jdberger</title>
		<link>http://oneutah.org/2008/10/23/the-internet-and-the-death-of-rovian-politics/comment-page-1/#comment-124402</link>
		<dc:creator>jdberger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 18:02:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m perfect.

Lemme tell ya&#039; - it&#039;s a burden.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m perfect.</p>
<p>Lemme tell ya&#8217; &#8211; it&#8217;s a burden.</p>
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		<title>By: Becky</title>
		<link>http://oneutah.org/2008/10/23/the-internet-and-the-death-of-rovian-politics/comment-page-1/#comment-124399</link>
		<dc:creator>Becky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 17:55:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Richard, as I said, it puts me in a glass house situation.  It&#039;s not so much the diversion from the argument as just habit from years of writing and editing.  Damn, I do wish I were perfect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Richard, as I said, it puts me in a glass house situation.  It&#8217;s not so much the diversion from the argument as just habit from years of writing and editing.  Damn, I do wish I were perfect.</p>
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		<title>By: Becky</title>
		<link>http://oneutah.org/2008/10/23/the-internet-and-the-death-of-rovian-politics/comment-page-1/#comment-124398</link>
		<dc:creator>Becky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 17:52:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah well, if he meant it ironically, that&#039;s different.  I took it literally since he once suggested that Cliff tells me what to say.

Don&#039;t expect me to disagree just for disagreement&#039;s sake like many do here.  But also remember, I&#039;m an unabashed liberal from way back.  We on this site tend to share similar viewpoints, so don&#039;t be surprised when you don&#039;t see us bickering amongst ourselves.  Do keep following us, though, as there is bound to come a topic . . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah well, if he meant it ironically, that&#8217;s different.  I took it literally since he once suggested that Cliff tells me what to say.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t expect me to disagree just for disagreement&#8217;s sake like many do here.  But also remember, I&#8217;m an unabashed liberal from way back.  We on this site tend to share similar viewpoints, so don&#8217;t be surprised when you don&#8217;t see us bickering amongst ourselves.  Do keep following us, though, as there is bound to come a topic . . .</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Okelberry</title>
		<link>http://oneutah.org/2008/10/23/the-internet-and-the-death-of-rovian-politics/comment-page-1/#comment-124397</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Okelberry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 17:51:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Becky,

JD hit my intended use of quotation marks on the head.  Think of me doing finger quotes in the air when I say &quot;followers&quot; and you&#039;ll likely get the meaning.  Don&#039;t feel bad, sarcasm doesn&#039;t sell well in blog posts.  I try to stay away from it but just can&#039;t resist some times.  I understand your need to corrent my spelling and punctuation.  Even when I was Editor of my high school newspaper, it drove my teacher/advisor crazy.  I should say that I have noticed several mispellings and puntuation errors on your part, but have declined to use them against you mainly because it doesn&#039;t serve the topic at hand and is generally a sign of diverting from a weak argument with a personl attack.   That said; if it makes you feel better please continue, I can take the criticizim.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Becky,</p>
<p>JD hit my intended use of quotation marks on the head.  Think of me doing finger quotes in the air when I say &#8220;followers&#8221; and you&#8217;ll likely get the meaning.  Don&#8217;t feel bad, sarcasm doesn&#8217;t sell well in blog posts.  I try to stay away from it but just can&#8217;t resist some times.  I understand your need to corrent my spelling and punctuation.  Even when I was Editor of my high school newspaper, it drove my teacher/advisor crazy.  I should say that I have noticed several mispellings and puntuation errors on your part, but have declined to use them against you mainly because it doesn&#8217;t serve the topic at hand and is generally a sign of diverting from a weak argument with a personl attack.   That said; if it makes you feel better please continue, I can take the criticizim.</p>
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		<title>By: jdberger</title>
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		<dc:creator>jdberger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 17:37:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Becky - quotes around followers is just fine. Maybe RO is implying that the people he speaks of aren&#039;t really Cliff&#039;s followers.

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://owl.english.purdue.edu/handouts/grammar/g_quote.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Quotation Marks for Words&lt;/a&gt;
Use quotation marks to indicate words used ironically, with reservations, or in some unusual way.

The great march of &quot;progress&quot; has left millions impoverished and hungry.
 
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

NB: Though I don&#039;t necessarily consider you, Becky, as a Cliffy minion, I don&#039;t recall you ever disagreeing with him. Of course, since I haven&#039;t been looking, I may not have noticed.

In regards to Cliffy popularizing my name. I wish he wouldn&#039;t. I&#039;d rather use up my 15 minutes of fame in some other way. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Becky &#8211; quotes around followers is just fine. Maybe RO is implying that the people he speaks of aren&#8217;t really Cliff&#8217;s followers.</p>
<blockquote><p><a href="http://owl.english.purdue.edu/handouts/grammar/g_quote.html" rel="nofollow">Quotation Marks for Words</a><br />
Use quotation marks to indicate words used ironically, with reservations, or in some unusual way.</p>
<p>The great march of &#8220;progress&#8221; has left millions impoverished and hungry.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>NB: Though I don&#8217;t necessarily consider you, Becky, as a Cliffy minion, I don&#8217;t recall you ever disagreeing with him. Of course, since I haven&#8217;t been looking, I may not have noticed.</p>
<p>In regards to Cliffy popularizing my name. I wish he wouldn&#8217;t. I&#8217;d rather use up my 15 minutes of fame in some other way. <img src='http://oneutah.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Becky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Becky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 13:34:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Sure the baby handful of his “followers” around here like his stuff&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Them&#039;s baitin&#039; words, Richard.  Unfortunately, I can&#039;t banter with you this morning as I&#039;m already at work.  Perhaps someone else will take the bait.

Punctuation Tip:  Quotation marks not needed around followers.  I recommend an absolutely delightful book, &quot;Eats, Shoots, and Leaves&quot; , for more fun and practical help with punctuation.

(I&#039;m sorry, Richard, I couldn&#039;t resist.  It&#039;s morning  and this is just how my brain works after my third cup of coffee.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Sure the baby handful of his “followers” around here like his stuff</p></blockquote>
<p>Them&#8217;s baitin&#8217; words, Richard.  Unfortunately, I can&#8217;t banter with you this morning as I&#8217;m already at work.  Perhaps someone else will take the bait.</p>
<p>Punctuation Tip:  Quotation marks not needed around followers.  I recommend an absolutely delightful book, &#8220;Eats, Shoots, and Leaves&#8221; , for more fun and practical help with punctuation.</p>
<p>(I&#8217;m sorry, Richard, I couldn&#8217;t resist.  It&#8217;s morning  and this is just how my brain works after my third cup of coffee.)</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Okelberry</title>
		<link>http://oneutah.org/2008/10/23/the-internet-and-the-death-of-rovian-politics/comment-page-1/#comment-124373</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Okelberry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 13:19:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JD,  

Man, I didn’t realize how much Cliff feared what I have to say until I searched his site for my name.  I imagine your name is just as popular. 

Did Cliff essentially just say they he has defeated us in argument in this post then later admonished us for making the converse claim?  Funny, I can’t think of a single time that Cliff’s hate filled banter has won the day.  Sure the baby handful of his “followers” around here like his stuff, but the reality is the average person who reads these posts, if there are any, know better.  Logic and a strong argument will always win the day in debate and is ALWAYS something that Cliff is short of.  Still it is good to see him actually write something resembling an essay rather than the usual copying of someone else’s work followed by a few slanted comments.

I forgive you again Cliff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JD,  </p>
<p>Man, I didn’t realize how much Cliff feared what I have to say until I searched his site for my name.  I imagine your name is just as popular. </p>
<p>Did Cliff essentially just say they he has defeated us in argument in this post then later admonished us for making the converse claim?  Funny, I can’t think of a single time that Cliff’s hate filled banter has won the day.  Sure the baby handful of his “followers” around here like his stuff, but the reality is the average person who reads these posts, if there are any, know better.  Logic and a strong argument will always win the day in debate and is ALWAYS something that Cliff is short of.  Still it is good to see him actually write something resembling an essay rather than the usual copying of someone else’s work followed by a few slanted comments.</p>
<p>I forgive you again Cliff.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob S.</title>
		<link>http://oneutah.org/2008/10/23/the-internet-and-the-death-of-rovian-politics/comment-page-1/#comment-121952</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 01:47:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don,

I was just taking a pot shot at Cliff; provided by his ally Richard.

I thought the juxtaposition of the two statements so close together was too good to pass up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don,</p>
<p>I was just taking a pot shot at Cliff; provided by his ally Richard.</p>
<p>I thought the juxtaposition of the two statements so close together was too good to pass up.</p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 22:56:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m just diggin&#039; at you for so easily falling for Cliff&#039;s bait.  I was feigning concern that our intellectual discussions were all for naught and that I was really dealing with another Ken Bingham.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m just diggin&#8217; at you for so easily falling for Cliff&#8217;s bait.  I was feigning concern that our intellectual discussions were all for naught and that I was really dealing with another Ken Bingham.</p>
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