I didn’t vote for Obama. I voted for Chuck Baldwin. But the following picture says it all.
Admittedly, I can think of a black man who I would rather have in the White House–Alan Keyes. In fact, I voted for him (wrote him in) in 2000.
If only one good thing comes out of an Obama presidency (and I’m confident that it won’t be the only one), it is that a predominance of Americans agree that a black man is qualified to be at the helm of the United States of America. Obama is my President, and I wish him well.
As with every other President, I will be praying for his success.
#1 by Ric Cantrell on November 6, 2008 - 11:56 am
Well said. Thanks Frank.
#2 by Cliff on November 6, 2008 - 4:29 pm
Frank,
You should seriously consider that fact that Obama did not win BECAUSE he is black, he won DESPITE the fact that he is black.
So whats with all the “I didn’t vote for Obama, but I am not a racist” talk?
We are all racist at some level. The question is how you deal with it.
I will be pondering THIS statement all night,
Hmmm. I assume you mean a predominance of WHITE Americans. It sounds like you deserve a lollipop or something.
Forgiveness maybe?
#3 by Frank Staheli on November 6, 2008 - 4:55 pm
Good hell, Cliff. Ya whiner! Considering that I’ve seen some comments come out of far left field from you before, I guess I’m not as surprised as I might be at this one.
Wait a sec…
Is this a setup? Am I on candid camera or something?
#4 by Cliff on November 6, 2008 - 5:08 pm
Frank,
Just asking you to consider your biases. It seems to me, anyone with your intelligence who can feel good enough about the LDS church’s mean-spirited attack on gays to post an attack on the ‘offended’, cannot possibly have the luxury of spiritual clarity (assuming your spirituality transcends obedience).
#5 by Frank Staheli on November 6, 2008 - 8:14 pm
Cliff,
There was no intent whatsoever on my part to be spiteful toward Obama, nor was there any intent on the part of the LDS Church to be spiteful toward gays.
Considering that you generally make a living on OneUtah from being spiteful, I can see how you think that I was being spiteful in my sincere comments about Barack Obama. We generally project our own weaknesses onto others.
Ric Cantrell got the intent of my post. I wish I could be surprised that you didn’t.
#6 by Cliff Lyon on November 6, 2008 - 8:29 pm
Please Frank,
Consider the brutal hypocrisy in that statement.
Given the fact that the LDS church or any moron could predict that gay people might FEEL spited, despite your assurance otherwise…
What you are really saying is “tough shit gay people!” “We have to do it because God tells us to (and we have $2 million bucks burning a hole in our pockets).”
No intent Frank? Ok, all is forgiven. And I want you to know, I have no intent to be spiteful toward the LDS church, but for the demands of non-secular humanity which easily recognizes bigotry and cruelty without the distortion of religion.
Someday, you will understand. You are BETTER than your church my good man.
#7 by Cliff Lyon on November 6, 2008 - 8:40 pm
I guess Frank what I didn’t get from your post was that you stand firmly against the LDS church’s position on homosexuality and your own complicity in this ancient, stupid, barbaric bigotry.
Frank, come out of the darkness. Be brave. Throw off the chains, for the sake of the kids. Come into your light!!!
#8 by jdberger on November 6, 2008 - 11:54 pm
Cliff? I thought that you were in favor of a sharp seperation of Church and State.
Are you now suggesting that the Church become a slave of the State?
You surely wouldn’t argue the converse, would you?
#9 by PissedinCA on November 7, 2008 - 8:02 am
Those Mormons have some nerve. They lie in their ads, they use God to discriminate (who would Jesus discriminate against?), and then they whine about being discriminated against. They donated 75% of the funds to Yes on 8. Yes, people hate the Mormon church and it is precisely because they do hateful things.
Discrimination through deception, disregard for separation of church and state, and reproach for equality are profoundly unAmerican concepts and most people I know have a newfound disgust for a group that they never thought twice about before (except of course when they were on the news for their freakish cult practices).
“In every country and every age, the priest had been hostile to Liberty.” -Thomas Jefferson
#10 by jdberger on November 7, 2008 - 11:41 am
Pissed – I’ve a simple solution for you.
Rescind the ability for the state to marry people.
The state can issue a domestic partner license. And a Church can marry.
The state can’t baptize, can it?
There, you’ve separated Church and State.
#11 by Ed Smith on August 12, 2010 - 3:29 pm
Typical of the smear propaganda that I’ve heard so many time, Cliff. Those who voted for someone other than Obama did so, at some level or other, because they are racist. How about the fact that Obama is just another lying, dirt-bag politician? I knew it before he got into the white house, and he has proven me right. Try “government transparency” for starters. The list goes on.
#12 by Ed Smith on August 12, 2010 - 3:44 pm
I forgot to add, I also voted for Chuck Baldwin, but only because the severe problems with the U.S. on monetary/ world issues (issues that Chuck Baldwin will work to fix using the Constitution as his guide), far over-shadow social issues such as marriage. But let it be clear, I fully understand that the government has no business telling two adults who they can or cannot marry. Nobody has the right to shove their religious morals down someone else’s throat.