This is a Conference Call


…because you just never know how many people are on the line with you.

The Inspector General released the “unclassified stuff the general public is allowed to see” version of the report on the Bush Illegal Wiretapping. I haven’t read the whole thing, but others have. And they point out some things that are missing from the report:

1. Any ballpark estimate — any number at all, really — of how many Americans had their communications intercepted by the NSA through the “President’s Surveillance Program.” The fact that this is missing from an inspectors general report is a glaring oversight.
2. The error rate in collecting terrorism communications. According to the inspectors general of the CIA, FBI and NSA, much if not most of the information collected by the program was unrelated to terrorism. The NSA inspector general found “no evidence of intentional misuse” of the surveillance efforts. Which is groovy. But it still doesn’t tell us how much irrelevant data the program collected, which is a crucial question when determining its efficacy.
3. How much so-called Fruit of the Poisoned Tree resulted. That’s a legal doctrine referring to evidence that has to be thrown out of court. Long story short: if an investigation or a technique to get information is inadmissible in court, no evidence yielded by such methods can be used either. Warrantless surveillance is most certainly a case that would generate inadmissible evidence. That’s one of the issues at stake in yesterday’s al-Haramain filing that I wrote about. And it’s huge. If information from warrantless surveillance made its way into indictments or prosecutions, then those cases are jeopardized. That’s the sort of thing that lets terrorists out on the streets.

-Stuff That’s Missing From the Inspectors General Report on Warrantless Surveillance

The first one is a bit worrying. For as long as this discussion has been going on in the public square, you would think that we would at least have a vague idea of just how many Americans had their rights violated. But I guess shredding the Bill of Rights is the only way to protect it from terrorists.

Anyone who has even the slightest knowledge of the methods generally used in data monitoring will laugh at the second one. If the error rate is under 50% you know they are lying about it. Likely closer to 75%. Ask anyone who works in any government related sector that filters data about their false positive rate. Talk about a joke.

But I especially like the last bit. Ironic that morons screaming about Obama turning terrorists out to run free in America over gitmo closings defend Bushes illegal wiretaps, which may actually free terrorists in America. Does the funny ever stop?

No, it doesn’t. As Glenn Greenwald points out the scariest thing not mentioned is that there were still more “surveillance efforts” going on at the same time that made even people like Ashcroft would approve of.

Think about that for just a minute. Nearly a dozen lawyers (insert lawyer joke here) were so upset by a range of surveillance that the Bush regime practiced that they threatened to resign. And these were people who approved of warrentless wiretapping of Americans.

As Ed Brayton says:

Imagine if you will a surveillance program so blatantly unconstitutional that even John Ashcroft thought it was worth resigning over. A program, or programs, that bad were in place for at least two years after 9/11. But this report invents a euphemistic name for them and goes into no detail at all on what they were.

And after the Bush DOJ decided that these activities were illegal? What does a president do when his own extremist justice department says “sorry what you are doing is too far over the line even for us”?

Why you tell them to go on with the job anyway. Naturally.

And just how much of this continues under the current administration? Well, we may never know. One of the great tragedies of the Bush corruption of the American system of government is that the genie has been let out of the bottle, and even if Obama is a thousand times better than his predecessor (which remains to be seen) he has the ability to do many things he never should have been able to do, thanks to Bush and the right wing stooges that gave him cover fire in the name of fighting terror. Bush and the useful fools that defended him have opened a very special Pandora’s box on the American people.

There is a certain irony in the campaign slogans of the next generation and the Pandora story. I am not sure if that is good or bad. Some scholars think that hope was not a gift to aid in the fight against the evils released from the box, but rather an evil itself, all the more seductive for appearing to be a good.

Still, we maintain. Noli nothi permittere te terere. (Thanks Becky)

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  1. #1 by Richard Warnick - July 13th, 2009 at 08:44

    Another thing that’s missing: any indication that ONE SINGLE TERRORIST was ever caught using what the Bush administration was pleased to call the “Terrorist Surveillance Program,” and now is apparently being called the “President’s Surveillance Program.”

    The report does indicate that surveillance was often done for purposes unrelated to terrorism investigations.

    Of course, the reality is there were/are multiple programs just within the NSA, and the Surveillance State isn’t limited to the NSA.

    BTW, while I was off floating a wild river we got the news that the NSA is building a $2 billion facility at Camp Williams. At least the Surveillance State will be good for Utah’s economy.

  2. #2 by Cliff - July 13th, 2009 at 09:19

    As I’ve I said before, over the coming decade, we will continue to uncover and discover heretofore unimaginable violations of law and the self-ascribed morals of the Republican Party.

    Nothing, absolutely NOTHING will surprise me.

  3. #3 by Patriot - July 13th, 2009 at 15:02

    Let this surprise you YOO HOO!! MASSIVE!! With 3 months to go!!

    Better yet Obama hasn’t repealed any of that crap Bush put in place you write about, no he continues and extends it. Incredible that anyone still shills for him.

    That damn Bush, he must still be president!! YOO HOO!!

  4. #4 by Patriot - July 13th, 2009 at 16:15

    Then see what you get for your trouble Utah. Guess it isn’t a rumor, if it in the Deseret News. Or is it?

    This is what becomes of no load States.

  5. #5 by Patriot - July 13th, 2009 at 16:17

    Bad link sorry. Here it is.

  6. #6 by Larry Bergan - July 13th, 2009 at 19:45

    The“Terrorist Surveillance Program” is now the “President’s Surveillance Program?”

    Isn’t that the same program that started out as “Total Information Awareness?”

    It’s not usually a good thing when organizations or people keep changing their names. Local scams, Diebold and Energy Solutions will always come to mind.

  7. #7 by Larry Bergan - July 13th, 2009 at 19:53

    Remember when Ashcroft got the little visit to his hospital bed. Well it seems as though Bush was awfully eager to get in touch also.

  8. #8 by Larry Bergan - July 13th, 2009 at 20:02

    As to the new spy facility in Utah, I wouldn’t worry; Gary Herbert has been the head of civilian surveillance, er Homeland Security here for a while.

    I miss Olene Walker. She discovered the secret beginnings of this program when it was called “The Matrix”, and informed the public.

    Hey, but all is good! Think of the jobs it will create for republican rising stars.

  9. #9 by Richard Warnick - July 14th, 2009 at 08:33

    The DOD Total Information Awareness (TIA) Program was renamed as the Terrorism Information Awareness Program in a failed attempt at re-branding. Congress cut off funding for it in 2003.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if similar programs are ongoing. The idea was for the federal government to do data mining the same way corporations do. If it’s legal for private enterprise, the reasoning went, why would it be illegal for the government?

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