OneUtah Blogger Among Al Quaida Sympathizers, Fifth Column

Its true!  One of our regulars here at OneUtah provided free legal services to the prisoners in Guantanamo.  See if you can guess who?

Apparently AG Eric Holder’s firm also represented these terrorists, and that pretty much proves that Obama IS effectively, Al Quaida.

Here’s proof.

  1. #1 by Cliff Lyon on November 20, 2009 - 9:34 am

    I know who it is. Here’s a hint………… ……… …….. … … . … ………. ……….. …. . .. ….. …… ….

  2. #2 by cav on November 20, 2009 - 9:38 am

    First they came for the delusional, but I wasn’t delusional, so I let it pass.

    Then they came for the…

  3. #3 by Richard Warnick on November 20, 2009 - 10:14 am

    Here’s an idea. We take all our religious extremists, give them assault rifles and parachute them into Waziristan to take on the other side’s religious extremists.

    I wonder if Pat Robertson knows that Muslims worship the same made-up God that he does.

  4. #4 by Richard Warnick on November 20, 2009 - 12:03 pm

    If you watch Rachel Maddow’s show, you know about this:
    New Right-Wing Craze Prays That Obama’s ‘Days Be Few’

    Let his days be few; and let another take his office.

    Let his children be fatherless, and his wife a widow.

    Let his children be continually vagabonds, and beg: let them seek their bread also out of their desolate places…

    With Christians like these, who needs Muslim extremist terrorists?

  5. #5 by jdberger on November 20, 2009 - 4:20 pm

    Hint….Arcadian.

    Another hint……city official.

    Let’s see how smart y’all are.

  6. #6 by Becky Stauffer on November 20, 2009 - 5:16 pm

    Rich,

    I like your idea at #3 above, but we won’t need to give them assault rifles. Let’s just let them use their own.

  7. #7 by mike on November 20, 2009 - 7:25 pm

    Richard,
    Your suggestion (#3) is a very good one. Just a couple of quick questions about the details of your marvelous plan. First, who gets to decided what a religious extremist is? Apparently for Becky it’s anyone who owns a gun. Second amendment psychos if you will. Also would you round them up (or as you put it “take them”) like Hilter rounded up the Jews or did you have a kinder more tolerant method in mind?

  8. #8 by Becky Stauffer on November 20, 2009 - 9:18 pm

    Mike,

    Jeez, Mike, way to jump to far conclusions. That’s not what I said. Not even close. Kindly refrain from speaking for me in the future.

    As to the idea, it was a joke. You just reinforced for me the thing I observe every day, that conservatives have no sense of humor. Lighten up!

  9. #9 by mike on November 20, 2009 - 9:59 pm

    Becky,
    Believe me when I say I am no conservative and I find almost everything humorous.

    Having said that let’s supposed someone posted the exact same suggestion as above but inserted homosexuals for religious extremists would you still find it funny? My guess is it would be considered insensitive hate speech by several of the bloggers on this site.

    It’s all fun and games as long as its being said about someone else.

  10. #10 by Larry Bergan on November 21, 2009 - 12:29 am

    I don’t have a photographic memory by any means, but I think I heard James Farmer saying something about this in one of the gun threads from quite a while back.

  11. #11 by shane on November 21, 2009 - 8:28 am

    Becky Stauffer :
    Mike,
    Jeez, Mike, way to jump to far conclusions. That’s not what I said. Not even close. Kindly refrain from speaking for me in the future.
    As to the idea, it was a joke. You just reinforced for me the thing I observe every day, that conservatives have no sense of humor. Lighten up!

    But he isn’t a conservative! Haven’t you been reading his comments!

    …if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, looks….

  12. #12 by Becky Stauffer on November 21, 2009 - 8:38 am

    Yes, Mike, if one were to view that mild bit of humor through your dark glasses, it would become offensive and disturbing. And to discuss it at length is tiresome, to say the least. Besides lacking in humor, conservatives also tend to beat a meaningless point to death. Yep, walks like a duck.

    Now what was the topic again? Oh yeah, Al Qaida sympathizers.

  13. #13 by Richard Warnick on November 21, 2009 - 8:53 am

    mike–

    It should go without saying I was joking, but to continue with the fantasy I would expect Pat Robertson and his followers to volunteer for the mission. And, as Becky pointed out, most of them wouldn’t need Army-issued weapons.

    Any comment on the “Christian” campaign to encourage people to pray for the death of President Obama?

  14. #14 by mike on November 21, 2009 - 12:02 pm

    Shane,
    Are you suggesting that to call some one on their intolerant behavior or to require citation when someone uses figures as facts in their blather are tenets of the conservative ideology?

    Find one comment I have made where I have defended in anyway the conservative ideology. I know Shane, you just made the assertion that I was a conservative you shouldn’t have to back it up with evidence. However try to remember that finding some of your reasoning absurd doesn’t necessarily mean I agree with the conservative side. The idea that the enemy of my enemy is my friend has proven time and again to be false.

    Becky if you would allow me to be serious for just a second I promise I will return to the comedy momentarily. The very fact that many conservatives and liberals seem to believe that the human condition is so shallow that we can all be summed up in single word labels is a complete load of shit that apparently some of you have bought into? Rather than thinking of politics so linearly perhaps it would serve us all to see things with a little more depth and breadth.

    Know back to the comedy…. Richard, would you care to suggest an idea that espouses intolerance which Becky will find funny because after all it’s just a joke.

  15. #15 by Richard Warnick on November 21, 2009 - 12:14 pm

    mike–

    I don’t espouse intolerance, and there’s no reason why I should, even as a joke. My satirical comment was meant to suggest intolerant people ought to take one another on directly and leave the rest of us out of it.

    How about the campaign to pray the President to death? What is your opinion?

  16. #16 by mike on November 21, 2009 - 12:16 pm

    Richard,
    Really, a fellow U of U man is really going to revert to the junior high excuse of “I was just joking?” I would have expected better of you. I guess all of the hate speech, racial slurs, and intolerant expressions that have ever been uttered could and should be excused with the proviso that they were just joking.

    Maybe the Christians who are praying for President Obama’s death are just joking too. God must surely have a sense of humor, just look a Shane. I’m just joking . Damn that does work well.

    Say hi to the gis hacks for me the next time you see them.

  17. #17 by mike on November 21, 2009 - 12:25 pm

    Richard,
    Sorry I posted right before I saw your next comment.
    All joking aside I truly cannot stomach any campaign that prays for someone else death. I find it not only absurd and ridiculous but potentially quite dangerous.

  18. #18 by Richard Warnick on November 21, 2009 - 12:36 pm

    I was joking, but not espousing intolerance. Quite the opposite. You can search this entire blog site. No hate speech from me.

    I think you have the right take on the “pray Obama to death” campaign.

  19. #19 by Becky Stauffer on November 21, 2009 - 12:49 pm

    Good God, Mike. Where to start with you. It was a very small and innocuous joke you have blown all out of proportion. When someone takes something like what I said and immediately equates it to rounding up Jews, it’s very clear where you’re coming from.

    Let me explain something else, Mike. People are sometimes serious and people are sometimes humorous. You can’t take a snippet of conversation and assume it represents all about a person. If you want to make a judgment of me, feel free, but please consult a larger body of work first.

  20. #20 by mike on November 21, 2009 - 1:04 pm

    Becky,

    Now I am confused. You said “ When someone takes something like what I said and immediately equates it to rounding up Jews, it’s very clear where you’re coming from” but then you state “You can’t take a snippet of conversation and assume it represents all about a person.” So you know all about me from a snippet but apparently you’re the only one who has this kind of supper power of perception?

  21. #21 by Becky Stauffer on November 21, 2009 - 1:24 pm

    That’s good, Mike. Puzzle over that for awhile. Maybe you’ll get it if you think about it.

  22. #22 by shane on November 21, 2009 - 2:54 pm

    Mike, if I am unhappy with the churches intolerance, and you call that intolerance (intolerance of intolerance) then i see three possible choices:

    1. your a moron.

    2. your a right winger.

    3. Your a troll

    I realize that is drawing a fine line, but I am trying to give you the benefit of the doubt. “Youth ages, immaturity is outgrown, ignorance can be educated, and drunkenness sobered, but stupid lasts forever.” Feel free to prove me wrong…

    Unlimited tolerance must lead to the disappearance of tolerance. If we extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, if we are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant, then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them. In this formulation, I do not imply, for instance, that we should always suppress the utterance of intolerant philosophies; as long as we can counter them by rational argument and keep them in check by public opinion, suppression would certainly be most unwise. But we should claim the right to suppress them if necessary even by force; for it may easily turn out that they are not prepared to meet us on the level of rational argument, but begin by denouncing all argument; they may forbid their followers to listen to rational argument because it is deceptive, and teach them to answer arguments by the use of their fists or pistols. We should therefore claim, in the name of tolerance, the right not to tolerate the intolerant. We should claim that any movement preaching intolerance places itself outside the law, and we should consider incitement to intolerance and persecution as criminal, in the same way as we should consider incitement to murder, or to kidnapping, or to the revival of the slave trade, as criminal.
    – “The Open Society and its Enemies”

    Intolerance of intolerance is not definable as intolerant. Your “calling someone on their intolerance” still, as I already said, amounts to nothing more than “I know you are but what am I!”

    Which makes your Really, a fellow U of U man is really going to revert to the junior high excuse of “I was just joking?” particularly funny.

  23. #23 by cav on November 21, 2009 - 4:38 pm

    Shane, your three choices are not mutually exclusive.

    @all.

  24. #24 by mike on November 21, 2009 - 5:06 pm

    Shane,
    Again that’s all you’ve got?????

    All I asked you to do was “Find one comment I have made where I have defended in anyway the conservative ideology” and you come back with some circular back-ass logic?

    Let me apologize for ever picking on you, I way overestimated you’re ability to defend yourself and I am sorry.

  25. #25 by shane on November 22, 2009 - 8:38 am

    cav: and this last post puts him at 2 of 3 as far as i can tell.

  26. #26 by cav on November 22, 2009 - 11:05 am

    4. Fundamentalist.

    Some of these wingnuts are actively praying for the death of our president and fervently hoping for mor terrist attacks.

    Beyond lame.

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